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Topic: Should Hatton fight again
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Rish
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Rish (9 Posts) on Tue 5-May-2009:

After such a devastating loss, should Hatton fight again? He looked gaunt at the weigh in, which could indicate he struggled to make the weight and had no energy or power in the ring.

How about a swan song against Khan?


Cestrian
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Cestrian (82 Posts) on Tue 5-May-2009:

Weight had f**k all to do with it.... Hatton is world class fighter (won 5 world titles at 2 weights) but he was in with one of the best PVP fighters of all time...
He was out classed...  Lets give credit to Pacman and not try and look at reasons why Hatton did not fire etc.

In answer to your question... You only have to look at the reaction of Hattons future wife at ringside when he was out cold and in big trouble to know Hatton should go right now while he can still spend his money with his health and his family. (just wish he had got out after his last fight)


robbyheart
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robbyheart (7 Posts) on Wed 6-May-2009:

Sorry Rish but Hatton was in his prime and ready to fight, i saw the weigh in, Hatton looked strong, ready, confident. Manny Pacquio is simply an amazing fighter. Im a Hatton fan and he is still one of the top 10 p4p best in the world, the fact Pacquio destroyed him so quicky is credit to Pacquio and trainer Freddy Roach. I do believe it is time Hatton hung up the gloves, as he always said he would retire at 30, and he has the money and legacy to retire comfortably. Ill never forget the Hatton v Tszyu fight, Ricky truly cemented his legacy that night against the then 35 yr old Russian great, who even though past his prime, gave Ricky one hell of a fight which Ricky won on pure guts and determination.


Mighty Rubble
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Mighty Rubble (1 Posts) on Tue 12-May-2009:

Hatton should definitely not finish his career on that note. He should fight Khan in Manchester, hopefully for the WBA belt if Khan beats Kotelnik. Then Khan should fight Witter and Rees, a re-match with Prescott and then go about trying to establish himself as the best junior-welter and then fight stablemate Pac-Man!


Cestrian
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Cestrian (82 Posts) on Wed 13-May-2009:

Rumble - Hatton should not fight on - His chin has gone.... He made 8 million just under Warren and loads more since.....

I said month back on this website his chin was shot and he should get out after beating PM to bow out with a nice win for the fans but he did not.

He does not owe anything to his fans.... he fought with heart and got carried out on his sheild... He just cannot do it any more.

He fight on he looses his health! Take a look a Freddy Roach, Joe Fraizer and Ali its not how he looks and sounds now its in 20 years ! No one wants that for the little manc, he has done amazing for British boxing but lets move on and get behind new younger fighters that are fighting this Fri and let Hatton retire in peace with his family.


Predatordog
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Predatordog (6 Posts) on Sun 17-May-2009:

His chin will never be the same, boxers never recover from knock outs such as this.
His pride is devastated and it will be tugging at him for a while to do it again, he has an inmense folowing and it is those fans who should unite and understand one more fight could seriously put his life at risk, they should show their love for their fallen hero and ask him to step down, just like he g, it is them who need to step back now and trow Ricky a nice retirement party ,I'm sure he'll understand and come to agree with them......


Reevo
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Reevo (8 Posts) on Sat 30-May-2009:

Hattan was never an A level fighter, certainly no Joe Gonzalghe, who was the best European fighter in a long, long time (maybe ever).
He should fight a mediocre fighter to go out with a win, and enjoy life in retirement.


MattO'
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MattO' (4 Posts) on Sun 31-May-2009:

"Hatton was never an A-level fighter".....? What an absolute load of nonsense. I'd love to know you're criteria for becoming an "A-level" fighter then, Reevo.

Hatton beat an abundance of world level operators, including a then p4p top-three Kostya Tszyu, and only ever lost to current p4p number 1 fighter's, Mayweather and Pacquiao.

Hatton has been universally regarded as the best 140lber for 4 years and spent most of that time in the top 5 or 6 on many a p4p list.

Regardless of whether he should fight on or not, the guy cetainly deserves his credit - as a very good, world class A-level fighter who was only ever beaten by legends of the sport.


downunderboxing
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downunderboxing (1 Posts) on Tue 2-Jun-2009:

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Time for Hatton to hang up the gloves. He should retire.

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bigal
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bigal (3 Posts) on Tue 2-Jun-2009:

Hatton is an average fighter on the world stage. He should fight again but only against those with average ability.  When you get stretched like he did twice that is embarrassing. British fighters are warriors but they need to choose the war better. Hatton has zero defense which is a detriment in the big fights against class competition. Nice guy average pug.

Reevo
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Reevo (8 Posts) on Tue 9-Jun-2009:

All that "pound for pound" stuff is a load of crap until guys get into the ring.  "A" level fighters don't get knocked out in their prime that way, or if they do they come back like Joe Louis.  Marvin Hagler, Ray Leonard, Hopkins, Mayweather, Gonzalghe, Chavez;  those guys are A level fighters.  Hatton does not measure up at all. 
Tough, game, and popular, yes, but not of the elite.


MattO'
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MattO' (4 Posts) on Wed 17-Jun-2009:

All that "pound-for-pound" stuff may well be trash; but Kostya Tszyu was one off the best fighters in the world when Ricky Hatton beat him. That's not trash, it's a fact.

Of course Hatton doesn't belong in the same bracket as Leonard, Hearns and Joe Louis. That doesn't mean he wasn't a world class fighter. You don't need to be one of the top all-time legends of the sport to be a world class fighter.

To say Hatton was an "averge pug" is just plain ignorant. He got knocked out twice by exceptionally good fighters. He came up short at the absolute elite level. Big deal. It happens. Doesn't take away from all the quality guys he did beat.

 


Cestrian
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Cestrian (82 Posts) on Wed 17-Jun-2009:

Well put Matto - Hatton was a 2 weight - 5 time world Champion...!!!

(thats without including the landslide win against Paul Malignaggi - Where he should have picked up the IBF belt)

How can he not be world class ??

Lots of world class fighter dont even pick up a belt let alone 5/6 at two weights !

Hatton got beat by two of the greatest pound for pound fighter of all time not just recent years...

If he had not had these fights then no one would be on here banging on like he was a club fighter.... Hatton took the fights where he new he was a big underdog because he has got balls.

The time to go was after beating Paul Malignaggi (as I said on here at the time). He fought on and got beat... Badly... he should go and enjoy his retirement and most switched on fight fans will respect him for what he has done.


rajpsingh
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rajpsingh (2 Posts) on Fri 19-Jun-2009:

Greetings. I don't think it would be outrageous if Hatton fought again. Hatton can still beat a lot of quality fighters around the 140 lb weight class. I woudn't mind seeing a match up between Hatton and Tim Bradley. Plus Hatton has a huge following, which is good for the sport.

On the down side, Hatton already has a ton of money so there's no real reason to fight on other than pride and glory. Also, Hatton puts his long term health at risk every time he steps into the ring. Then again, so does every fighter. If Hatton wants to fight on I would respect his decision. But if he returns and starts getting KO'd by second tier fighters then I think people should start pressuring him to quit.


robbyheart
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robbyheart (7 Posts) on Wed 24-Jun-2009:

I think Hatton will fight again, he is still young and i am sure he would like to go out with a win in his home town of Manchester England. There is no shame losing to Mayweather and Pacquiao although he was probably surprised by the knockout defeat at the hands of Pacquiao. Every fighters time comes, and he has had a great career from the time he defeated a 35 yr old faded former P4P king Kostya Tszyu to becoming one of the best light welterweights in recent history. His achievements have been impressive and at his age a proper send off in his home town would be in place i believe!


Paul Upham
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Paul Upham (8 Posts) on Sat 27-Jun-2009:

I'd be very surprised if Hatton were not to fight again. The Hitman will be back.


Peggers
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Peggers (3 Posts) on Fri 3-Jul-2009:

How can anyone say that Hatton isn't an A-level fighter???? Losing to Pacman and Mayweather doesnt make you a B-level fighter. He's been at the top of the tree for 5 years. The belts and the respect he gets from the world's boxing media says it all! However i do think he fought Mayweather and Pacman too late. He should've been hitting America a year or two earlier. By the time he fought Collazo it was the beginning of the end. Fans were callng for him to go to America ages ago and Ricky Hatton knew it too. THAT'S WHY HE LEFT WARREN!!! He couldnt get him any good fights. Instead he was left to knock out bums for a couple of years! hatton was an under-rated performer. He was agressive so people took him as a brawler but the real fans (and media) know he was a classy fighter


Paul Upham
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Paul Upham (8 Posts) on Sat 4-Jul-2009:

Just as intesting a question, if Ricky Hatton does fight again, as many suspect he will, who will be his trainer? Things didn't seem to end well with Floyd Mayweather Sr, so who would Hatton turn to now? This has to be an important consideration for Hatton when he thinks about whether he should fight again.


DBO
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DBO (28 Posts) on Fri 10-Jul-2009:

Hatton is going to need to be careful. I myself am beginning to wonder if he can still compete at the level of the Bradleys and Holts right now. I think the Amir Khan fight is a bad idea because it looks like he might doubt himself by taking on a much less experienced fighter that has his own chin issue. Marco Maidana would be a good fight for the fans.


honest
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honest (13 Posts) on Thu 16-Jul-2009:

if he gets a complete cat scan and the doctors give him the green light, then it is up to him if he wants to fight again, i personaly believe he should retire he is over rated,and he has a glass jaw,if he wants to be in the game he should get into training or managing or promoting the pay is just as good and you dont get pummelled


diamond
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diamond (2 Posts) on Fri 17-Jul-2009:

Ricky Hatton is a limited and predictable fighter who will be exploited and reduced to an aging profile scalp on the resume of boxing's powerful young guns if he continues to fight. He has lost the steel in his beard, remembering that this was a major reason he had the success he did - his toughness, not skill set. He's become an ATG English boxer, is loved by all his country's sportsfans and has enough money to live five lifetimes. No, he should not fight again. Retire Ricky....before you become seriously injured!!


diamond
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diamond (2 Posts) on Fri 17-Jul-2009:

Paul,
Trainers now have the game plan and stragegy to 'snuff out' anything Ricky has to offer. I can remember you saying on the Sweet Science before the Pacman fight, with Mayweather Snr as his new trainer, that it doesn't matter who trains him he's programmed and can't change his spots....you were right. However, I was prepared to wait and see if he could improve his skills under the self proclaimed  'best trainer on the planet' but we now know the answer. Why would anyone entertain the idea of Ricky's return to boxing? What has he to prove?
But of course a boxer being boxer..........


bigal
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bigal (3 Posts) on Tue 21-Jul-2009:

Hatton is an average fighter who fought in England against measured opponents. When he crossed the big pond to step up in class he got demolished twice and embarrassed himself.  He is questioning his boxing skills now and must realize he cannot compete against the big name fighters. He was an average pug and a brawler not a skilled boxer. Heart and courage cannot overcome better skills and punching power.  He is gunshy now and doubting his ability and should only pick opponents he can beat.  When you get stretched like Hatton did twice in Vegas it takes away your confidence.  Hatton is champ of Manchester and should stay there.  Nice guy - average pug!!!


Cestrian
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Cestrian (82 Posts) on Wed 22-Jul-2009:

BigAl - You have show how ignorant you are as far as Hattons fight record, I am guessing you also think Joe and Lenox were overated also.... ?

Your wise words "Hatton is an average fighter who fought in England against measured opponents. When he crossed the big pond to step up in class he got demolished twice and embarrassed himself"

Hatton boxed the ears off Vince Philips (ex IBF champ) & Ben Tackie plus a good set of fighter who had fought for the world title or there abouts before becoming number 1 challenger - running into the great Kostya Tszyu for IBF belt.

After winning by grinding him down he then won the WBA by stopping Maussa and then moved up (CROSSING THE POND) and became a two weight world champion beating Lollazo.

Moved down and CROSSING THE POND  a few more times ! - beating Juan Urango for IBF belt and Castillo.

He also boxed the ears off world champion Paul Malignaggi (CROSSING THE POUND) stopping him late somthing Cotto could not manage ! To say he is average and not world class is a joke. You dont become a 2 weight 5/6 world champ if you are average... he got beat by 2 of the greatest pound for pounders of all time. Yes he is over the hill, yes his chin has gone but he was a great fighter in his prime.

Ps. If you watched a few episodes of south park you would rethink your name "BIGAL"


bigal
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bigal (3 Posts) on Mon 10-Aug-2009:

An earlier post said Hatton was a great fighter in his prime.  He was in and still is in his prime when he got demolished twice. Hatton fought a bunch of hasbeens or over the hill fighters past their peaks earlier. 
   The guy got a glass jaw, no defense, balloons up in weight between fights and throws darts better than he does punches. A few rays of sunlight on that pale milk white body might help also.  Hatton was and still is a very average British fighter who will do better watching the great ones box on TV. Word!


Peggers
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Peggers (3 Posts) on Wed 19-Aug-2009:

Bigal you twonk! You're one of those guys who thinks that only fights in america count. Hatton has lost it now, but in his prime he would have lasted alot longer than the 2nd round against pacquio. he has fought the best, and lost twice, once to mayweather, who is alot bigger anyway, and once to pacquio, probably the quickest puncher since Ali. The guy throws 2 punches at once for F's sake!
But because he isnt a "pugulist" and he's a bit rough and ready doesnt make him less skillfull. To have someone on the ropes for 30 seconds without the  ref calling break takes skill. he manouveres his body, he tricks opponents and refs into thinking its toe-to-toe when really he has his opponant exactly where he wants him.
How can anyone say that a 5/6 time world champ, who only lost to Hall of Famers, is average. Put it this way, he beat Maliniggi with ease, despite being old and past it. What does that say. It says that even way below his best he can beat the no1 contender in his weight division.


Peggers
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Peggers (3 Posts) on Wed 19-Aug-2009:

Below is not my post....but it is pt so well that i have to copy and paste it for all of you to see again.  Nice one Matto

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Hatton was never an A-level fighter".....? What an absolute load of nonsense. I'd love to know you're criteria for becoming an "A-level" fighter then, Reevo.
Hatton beat an abundance of world level operators, including a then p4p top-three Kostya Tszyu, and only ever lost to current p4p number 1 fighter's, Mayweather and Pacquiao.
 
Hatton has been universally regarded as the best 140lber for 4 years and spent most of that time in the top 5 or 6 on many a p4p list.
 
Regardless of whether he should fight on or not, the guy cetainly deserves his credit - as a very good, world class A-level fighter who was only ever beaten by legends of the sport.


Paul Upham
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Paul Upham (8 Posts) on Sun 30-Aug-2009:

Ricky Hatton is sounding more like he doesn't want to come back after all. Maybe his meeting with Muhammad Ali will actually encourage him to stay retired.


bearcat
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bearcat (67 Posts) on Sat 26-Sep-2009:

If Hatton doesn't fight again he goes out as a loser.  He will  be remembered as a loser who beat up on older foes and lost embarrassingly to the 2 fighters he faced that were bonafide challengers.  HAtton owes the British boxing public more fights rather than go into retirement as a loser and a hasbeen. I think Ricky knows deep down he cannot beat top rated fighters in their prime.  I just will remember Hatton stretched out sleeeping on his back in front of millions in Vegas. So be it.


mcboxing
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mcboxing (4 Posts) on Sun 27-Sep-2009:

Why should'nt he fight again? The only losses in his career are the ones to two of the most special fighters of this generation. Pacman beat hatton so easily because of his trainer freddy roach, freddy is a genius and he saw a simple flaw in hatton's style and worked on it with pacman. Pacman is as good as he is because of roach. If hatton went to roach after he was beaten by maywehther then hatton would be a far more superior fighter than he is today. He needs to eat, sleep and **** boxing for the next 18 months to two years and bow out with his last fight against either maywether or pacman


Geoffuk
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Geoffuk (1 Posts) on Tue 29-Sep-2009:

Hatton will be back for one last hurrah, but in terms of his two losses as many have said on here they were against two of the best P4P boxers in the world...Hatton aint done all that bad has he!?!?!
He will go down as one of the most sucessful british boxers regardless now, and good luck to him


bearcat
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bearcat (67 Posts) on Tue 29-Sep-2009:

Hatton can fight again but the point is unless he fights against a measured opponent he cannot win.  Hatton is a limited skill fighter who needs to be matched against a less than average opponent to shine. Get the paycheck, win or lose depends on the opponent which I am sure will be a tomato can chump and then walk around like you are a great fighter which you are not. You are the best boxer in Manchester let it go at that. Hatton is probably 200 lbs now anyway or 11.5 stone, whatever.


bearcat
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bearcat (67 Posts) on Tue 27-Oct-2009:

Saw Freddy Roach comment on HBO last night that he was surprised that Hatton wasn't very good.  Most of the boxing experts in the US knew Hatton was very average but made good publicity and had a following of fans who thought he could fight.  Thing was Hatton cannot fight and is very average as a fighter.  Ricky is better staying out of the fight game and just watch his brother.




 




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