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Tickford (2 Posts) on Wed 14-Jan-2009:

Hi Guys.new to this site.Is anyone aware of anthony
Mundine and what are your thoughts on him.ive seen alot of his fights and believe he has dodged superior fighters just to rack up an impressive record


Cestrian
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Cestrian (82 Posts) on Wed 14-Jan-2009:

Anthony Mundine - is a complete joke.... !


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sneaky right hand (4 Posts) on Wed 14-Jan-2009:

Doged who he has fought Kessler,Green,Echols,Siaca,Soliman & then proceeded to offer to fight Calzaghe & rematch with Kessler in which he offered kessler 80% of the purse & he is looking to fight strum as he is the no.1 contender so tell me does that look like a fighter thats avoiding quality opposition HE WILL fight strum & beat him THEN all the haters will probably say oh strum was not that good so please give the guy a break.


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wardstar (55 Posts) on Thu 15-Jan-2009:

I'd love to give Mundane Mundine a break, to both his legs! The guy is a decent boxer with a good athletic background, but the guy thinks he's the second coming of Roy Jones JR. Mundine talks so much ****, he's his own biggest fan and is delusional about his standing in world boxing, outside Australia he means jack ****. He's fought 2 world class fighters, Sven Okte and and Kessler and was routed by both (KO to Otke and pts to Kessler). He beat Danny Grean (good result credit were its due) but other than that his record is a who's who of nobodys and never will be's, he may fight and beat Sturm, who is a good fighter but also like Mundine is overrated. So i hope they both fight and retire eachother!   


wardstar
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wardstar (55 Posts) on Thu 15-Jan-2009:

I'd love to give Mundane Mundine a break, to both his legs! The guy is a decent boxer with a good athletic background, but the guy thinks he's the second coming of Roy Jones JR. Mundine talks so much ****, he's his own biggest fan and is delusional about his standing in world boxing, outside Australia he means jack ****. He's fought 2 world class fighters, Sven Okte and and Kessler and was routed by both (KO to Otke and pts to Kessler). He beat Danny Grean (good result credit were its due) but other than that his record is a who's who of nobodys and never will be's, he may fight and beat Sturm, who is a good fighter but also like Mundine is overrated. So i hope they both fight and retire eachother!   


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wardstar (55 Posts) on Thu 15-Jan-2009:

I'd love to give Mundane Mundine a break, to both his legs! The guy is a decent boxer with a good athletic background, but the guy thinks he's the second coming of Roy Jones JR. Mundine talks so much ****, he's his own biggest fan and is delusional about his standing in world boxing, outside Australia he means jack ****. He's fought 2 world class fighters, Sven Okte and and Kessler and was routed by both (KO to Otke and pts to Kessler). He beat Danny Grean (good result credit were its due) but other than that his record is a who's who of nobodys and never will be's, he may fight and beat Sturm, who is a good fighter but also like Mundine is overrated. So i hope they both fight and retire eachother!   


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MANTARAY (2 Posts) on Thu 15-Jan-2009:

Mundane Mundine sums him up perfectly!Good boxer who has taken to padding his record with bums recently.Needs to step up before it's too late.He's wasting precious time and selling himself short.YOU NEED TO GO TO THE USA MUNDINE!ASAP.


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MANTARAY (2 Posts) on Thu 15-Jan-2009:

Mundane Mundine sums him up perfectly!Good boxer who has taken to padding his record with bums recently.Needs to step up before it's too late.He's wasting precious time and selling himself short.YOU NEED TO GO TO THE USA MUNDINE!ASAP.


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Cestrian (82 Posts) on Sat 17-Jan-2009:

Mundine… He would not even be spoken about if there was not the ridiculous rule that if you Australian champion you get ranked inside the top 10 without fighting anyone!

To often your fighters get thrown in without stepping up from club level fighters. 

Have a look at Mundine’s record its full of padding like Lester Ellis fighting in 40’s 2 stone above his weight !

http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=014646&cat=boxer

 

When ever he has stepped up against world class fighters his bottle has gone he goes into survival mode and he has lost :–

 

Kessler - beat him easily (& Joe beat Kessler)

Manny Siaca - (I was unlucky enough to be near ringside) was a shocking fight where he jeered by his home crowd for 12 rounds as he hung on like koala bear hanging from a burning branch !!

Sven Ottke – An aged Sven renowned for his one punch knockout power Wink was able to spark him out until his car was the only one left in the car park.

 

Mundine would not get passed 5 rounds with Carl Froch enough said….


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wardstar (55 Posts) on Sun 18-Jan-2009:

Amen to the above comment, Carl Froch look no further than Mundine for your next fight, he talks a good fight, he looks like a tough guy and Carl could make good money for pummelling him into submission and making him look like the fraudster he really is.

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robbyheart (7 Posts) on Mon 19-Jan-2009:

Anthony Mundine can be described as a sometimes brilliant boxer with quite a name in Australia but nothing really to back it up on an international scale. While he has beaten some credible names (Danny Green, Antwun Echols, Sam Soliman) he built up his record fighting washed up retired fighters (38 yr old former IBF Super Lightweight Lester Ellis anyone? disgraceful!) and defended his most recent WBA Super Middleweight Title against no name fighters from Argentina whom i cant even name off the top of my head. He then chose to drop the title rather than make a mandatory against Mikkel Kessler, a fighter that made Mundine look terrible a few years back and surely a fighter Mundine would have wanted revenge against. Not the case, he chose to drop a few pounds and make a dash for the WBA middleweight title with Felix Sturm his priority. So far he has put in some pretty poor performances, being knocked down by Crazy Kim in his first middleweight start. My question is if he is legitimate about being the best as he always claims to be why has he not targetted Arthur Abraham or Kelly Pavlik? My gut feeling is Mundine is waiting at his No.1 ranking in the WBA for Sturm to fight a unification with either Pavlik or Abraham leaving Mundine to fight for the WBA 'Regular' Championship much like he did in the past for his other two 'championship' wins. 


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jonesy72 (2 Posts) on Sun 25-Jan-2009:

right i have just joined this site and would like to comment on mundine , when is he gonna step up i mean beating taylor is gonna prove nothing , taylor is finished and always struggles to win and when he steps up he fails spectacularly this will be no different ,come on mundine what about sakio bika or daniel geale or some good international name so people know you outside aus ,you are losing respect rapidly


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paddles (1 Posts) on Sun 25-Jan-2009:

love him or hate him ,the name mundine regularly comes up in discussions . interesting fight coming up with shannon taylor but the australian public in general are always hoping he will lose . he seems to trash talk alot before his fights and yet act humble and respectful after . its time he stood up and took on sakio at supermiddle weight or daniel geale at middle weight and give the boxing fans of australia a contest to look forward to .  


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jonesy72 (2 Posts) on Sun 25-Jan-2009:

mundine is almost a waste of talent ,i cant believe he is fighting shannon taylor this is almost as bad as the ellis fight ,a complete mismatch! 


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wardstar (55 Posts) on Sun 25-Jan-2009:

Look the top and bottom of Mundane Mundine is this - He fights like he talks, flashy, arrogant, without substance or commitment. In my opinion the guy is a fraudster. I beg mundine to make some noise about fighting Carl Froch, cos i believe Taylor isn't going to force his mandatory with carl, leaving the door open for someone like Mundine to step upto the plate and prove he actually owns a pair of balls, get on a plane come to the UK and fight Froch. If Mundine does that and wins i for one with personally appolagise, lol, but we all no that aint gonna happen! X


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robbyheart (7 Posts) on Mon 26-Jan-2009:

Just the other day heard about the Mundine/Taylor fight coming up, a fight that many have been wanting to see but is probably coming a few years too late. Again Mundine has got an opponent well past his prime and began his career as a Junior-Welterweight. The 36 yr old Taylor may provide a spirited challenge for Mundine but again his ageing reflexes wont help him and i see Mundine stopping him in the later rounds, similar to Taylor's failed attempt at the IBO Middleweight title a few years ago. The circus continues, if Mundine was half serious about his career he would be taking on Sakio Bika or Danile Geale for the IBO Middleweight title. Time will tell. 


Callas
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Callas (5 Posts) on Tue 27-Jan-2009:

I hope someone sits Mundine on his ass soon. I just don't think Shannan Taylor packs the goods anymore. He's just going to be another hand picked fighter that's way past his prime for Mundine to beat up and then spend 3 months sprouting about how he's the Man. This Islamic, hard done by, yet 'greatest ever' fighter routine has already been done by someone who had the nuts to fight the best, and prove he was the Greatest. Mundine's only real win was against an underweight Green and he spent the whole show waiting to counter rather than mixing it up. I desperately wanted Greeny to come out of retirement and fight the Mouth at light heavy. They'd have been looking for Mundine's head under the seats in the front row after Green connected. Anyway, get ready for Mouth to roll out his full repetoire of personal adulation and his threats to fight anyone in the world. Most likely we'll see a 1980's featherweight who's out of shape enough to weigh in at middleweight that Mundine can bash and pad his ego and his stats.


Cestrian
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Cestrian (82 Posts) on Tue 3-Feb-2009:

Mundine… He would not even be spoken about if there was not the ridiculous rule that if you Australian champion you get ranked by the WBA inside the top 10 without fighting anyone! There is also an even more ridiculous rule that if the TRUE WBA world champion wins another belt in a different federation then he becomes a supper champion…. AND THE NUMBER 1 CONTENDER…… GETS GIFTED THE WBA WORLD TITLE STATUS.  So don’t give me the crap about what a great champ Mundine is….. At least Green won his belt in the ring.If he is serious why the hell would he fight and beat Sam Soliman a fighter who has lost a third of his fights 3 times… how is that progressing your career. Mundine has called out some big names over the years (Joe Calzaghe, Hopkins, Pavlik, Kessler, Froch) would murder him but has never done anything to work towards fighting them.

Instead of winging about big fighters not wanting to fight him he should do what Froch has just done – He fought his way to number one contender status and won the WBC world title in a brutal 12 round war with Jean Pascal.
 
(Jermain Taylor was in line for that for that world title fight but declined and decide to have a warm up bout against Jeff Lacy instead) :O)

Now in contrast  have a look at Mundine’s record its full of padding like Lester Ellis fighting in 40’s 2 stone above his weight…. He later has admitted he was drunk coming into the ring ….


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connor (1 Posts) on Wed 4-Feb-2009:

Listen,  Im not a gullible fool who just gushes over the guy.  I just want ppl to give a lil credit where it is due. He was a top rugby league player. one of the highest paid. switched to boxing at 26. come on! I am just as frustrated as anyone else that he has to waste his time fighting all these other guys.  Anyone that knows anything about Mundine would know he is too ambitious to want to stick it out in australia fighting 2nd rate fighters.. if you cant find anything admirable in being top of rugby then switch to boxing and to have done what he has done.  and his not finished yet. and i realy think he will make alot of ppl shut up when he gets that big chance. remember otke was after 10 fights for christs.


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AussieOpinion (5 Posts) on Fri 13-Feb-2009:

he keeps fighting no bodies and bums is the general association that comes with mundine and boxing, he has hanpicked his fights but this is a guy with no amatuer boxing backgroud just a father that boxed but no amtuer experience so he learning on the job stwitching sports the fitness the mucles you use and move are different another challange he has overcome.. he fought for a world title in his 12th fight and i thought was winning or close to winning before being ko'd but great achievement, he dominated danny green , antwyn echols, manny siaca , and sam soliman i think at the time was world class and a avoided fighter, ... he is a known being mouthy in the media or a "smart arse" but , behind the cameras the guy does alot for different charaties and alot out of his pockets .... and he does this all with most australians hoping he gets ko'd yet loves deffying us .... id love to see what mundine would do if australia supported him ..... lets give the guy a chance......


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BoxFan1973 (2 Posts) on Sun 15-Feb-2009:

Sorry AussieOpinion, I now see that you were saying that Soliman was world rated and an avoided fighter, which is probably true.


AussieOpinion
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AussieOpinion (5 Posts) on Tue 24-Feb-2009:

apology accepted, my point is mundine has fought some decent fighters, very well handpicked as he is still learning on the job so to speak, but he does now have to start making the bigger fights happen


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robbyheart (7 Posts) on Tue 24-Feb-2009:

I watched with anticipation the Mundine vs Taylor fight and while Mundine scored an easy points win, his performance was hardly impressive. Taylor bullied Mundine around the ring and made Mundine look like a fool, even cowardly. Although Taylor barely threw enough punches to win a round, there is something about Mundine that just isnt right. All criticism aside, Mundine is a damn good athlete, he has beaten Green, Echols, Soliman, yet he fights with too much caution. He DROPPED his WBA title rather than fight a mandatory against Mikkel Kessler, the same fughter that kicked his arse 3 or 4 years ago, and would have most certainly done again. He got knocked down by Yoshizori Nishizawa for crying out loud! He was hardly willing to engage in a fight with Taylor, it reminded me a lot of his last fight with Soliman. If he is satisfied back pedalling and picking off his slower opponents with weak 1, 1-2 combinations so be it. But he certainly isnt exciting at the moment or overly impressive. No one will ever take credit away from him for switching from NRL to pro boxing, but if your going to run your mouth and be a smart arse, back it up, thats what Australian people and fight fans appreciate.


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Cestrian (82 Posts) on Tue 24-Feb-2009:

I think most people agree - He is hand picking his fights with a saftey first approach. To build up his shi*ty record with the WBA

Whenever he has mixed it with world class fighters he has lost. END OF STORY
 
HE HAS GOT HIS TITLES BY WBA putting him as number 2 !  For FIGHTING LOCAL BAR FIGHTERS and WBA world tile holder winning other belt !!!  He HAS THEN PICKED HIS BELT UP OUT OF THE FLOOR  - CAN ANYONE SAY THAT IT A GOOD THING FOR BOXING !

If he finds himself in the ring with a live fighter (even a blown up old welter) he goes into back peddle fighter who looks 6 round amature fighter with only one 2 punch combo on the back foot to his locker - with a big mouth that talks a good fight.

Dont give me the oh he is learning and he is working to the big fights - he is nearly in his mid 30's and will soon be in decline.... his best years wasted... 

Thing is I think if had left Oz and gone to the states and worked with a top trainer like Roach and had a heart in the ring he could have mixed it with the best.

Thats a lot of IF'S....

He like been a big fish in a small boxing pond and to quote Green his heart is a big as a tic tac.


Callas
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Callas (5 Posts) on Sat 28-Feb-2009:

Well, Shannon Taylor was very game, but Mundine just fought his defensive fight and sniped Taylor at the right moments. Hardly an inspirational victory for someone who proclaims to be the best. I'm holding my breath for Mundine's next "SuperFight" in the States....maybe Roberto Duran...wouldn't that look good on his record.


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whiplash wazza (2 Posts) on Mon 13-Apr-2009:

c mon mundine you have skills reflexes sharp punches power and good foot work why you fighting chumps are you and athelete or is it a money making project, where is your heart up your arse it seems ,i support you in your fights and think you are a great boxer but come on lets see some fireworksagainst some world class oposition.do it for yourself and your fans.




 




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