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Topic: Hatton-Cotto
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DBO
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DBO (28 Posts) on Mon 16-Nov-2009:

Now that both Hatton and Cotto have been decimated by Pacquiao and are probably going to be seriously considering haning the gloves up soon, they are going to have to pick fights based on reward.

I think this fight only made sense if Cotto lost to Pac. HBO loves working with both and these guys can sell. In Manchester or at MSG this fight is making serious money and even though it's not the fight I once imagined it could be at 140, it's not a waste of time for either man.

How likely do you think the fight is and how would you all pick it?


Cestrian
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Cestrian (82 Posts) on Mon 16-Nov-2009:

I hope Hatton does not get back in the ring. His chin is shot to bits.... His once great punch resistance has faded over the last 2 years with alarming effect. When our a all action take one to give one fighter then your finished.

As I said on here - Hatton should of got out on a win after he beat light punching Paulie for what should of been the IBF title.

Cotto would grind him down over 6-8 rounds and it would be another bad stopage.

I would like to see Cotto fight on though, I think he has more left in the tank. (he would have more left in the tank if his corner had got in out last night in the 9th... he did not even have a punchers chance)


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enlightenment (3 Posts) on Mon 16-Nov-2009:

Firstly Hatton's chin is NOT Shot to bits. Get your perspective right.

Hatton will always be at best a championship level fighter. He is not a elite fighter, never was.

In my opinion Hatton would give any of the current champs at 140 nightmares and he would stand a good chance at winning too. But to go any further than that, what your looking will be hatton flat on the canvas, asleep.


bearcat
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bearcat (67 Posts) on Mon 16-Nov-2009:

Cotto can't make 140 lbs so the fight with Hatton would have to be at 147. Freddie Roach has stated that he was surprised that Hatton was not a good fighter and rose to his level. Cotto would destroy Hatton because Hatton cannot fight at that level.  Ricky is better off fighting if he returns to beatable opponents.


DBO
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DBO (28 Posts) on Mon 16-Nov-2009:

Yeah, of course it would have to be at 147. When I wrote the original post, I was referring to how great of a fight I thought it would have been when both campaigned at 140.


Cestrian
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Cestrian (82 Posts) on Wed 18-Nov-2009:

Emlightment... Two things...

1)Hattons chin is shot....

I wrote on this site on the 8-Oct-2008 that Hattons chin had been in decline since late 07 compared to his bullet proof peak against Tzyu :-

"That night Hatton walked through some massive shots that had no effect to get his own bombs off to grind down the legend to retire him on his stool forever."

"I stand by what I wrote 3 of Hattons last 5 fights have been worrying.... Please try and understand just how hard Tzyu bangs (just ask Zab Judah) and watch the Tzyu fight again then watch the following….

1) Collazo – He had more than “a few dodgy rounds” at the last 1/3 of the fight it were the worst rounds of his career as he was badly hurt and almost out on his feet from some big shots from a heavy punching big welter.

2) Mayweather to good and the ref did not help… but you claim was too big.. Ironically he has come up from a even lower weight but he just holds the weight better at welter than Hatton. FM has had a low KO rating up at this weight but seamed to hurt him again and again. The Ko at the end was a heavy one.

3) Juan Lazcano - This one is the most worrying –  A good little boxer but this guy was picked for his lack of power for a comeback fight… he does not bang… he has only stopped a handful of guys in his long carear. He tagged Hatton again and again and again and several times he was stunned and hurt. Please watch this and compare it to the Tzyu fight and you will see that his punch resistance has been declining in each fight starting with Collazo damage.Finger crossed his new trainer Mayeather Senior will bring out the much underestimated “Hatton the Boxer” that we have occasionally seen glimpses of every other fight. It should and make him harder to hit allow him to get some better combinations off rather than the 100mile an hour stuff for the crowds… That coupled with Malignaggi lack of power he should out work him and take him to a 12 round points win.  (I doubt he will stop him as Cotto could not shift him).I would like Hatton to hang them up like Lewis and hopefully Joe and retire with his belt. "

Hatton won all of the above fights other than FM but the warning signs were there for all to see when he got tagged he wobbled..... in the past he would just shrug them off and come tearing back with body punches...

Sadly Hatton did not hang em up after PM and boxed one best PVP fighters of all time and got KO very badly very early....

Some fighters punch resistance goes after taking some heavyshots and it never comes back, the poor conditioning between fights has also in my opinion had effect over time. Still Hatton fought anyone and can be proud of what he has done for the sport.

The guy made 8 million just under Frank Warren he has his family and friends and a future outside the ring why risk his health.

Your 2nd point :- a "championship fighter" ..... ???

(unless by this you mean that a championship fighter he was a 5 time 2 weight world champion !!  - Six if he had got the belt for boxing the ears of PM for the IBF !)


bearcat
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bearcat (67 Posts) on Sat 21-Nov-2009:

Hatton won't ever fight Cotto because hatton is a pale pasty faced coward who got exposed as the boxing fraud he is. Hatton got stretched twice exposing his lack of boxing skills and a crystal chin. Cowards don't fight tough fighters after getting embarrassed and Hatton embarrassed England and his fans big time.  Hatton won't ever fight a hard hitting contender ever again because he has no skills to compete.  Freddy Roach said it best when he said I was amazed at how poor Hatton was.


johnfi
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johnfi (1 Posts) on Sat 21-Nov-2009:

Bearcat-you are a twit of the highest order.Hatton`s accomplishments are beyond dispute.A two weight , 5 time world title holder and you say he is a coward.You are an armchair grandpa with a serious grudge.Its called jealousy-get over it pal!


José Santana Jr.
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José Santana Jr. (9 Posts) on Sat 21-Nov-2009:

I'm not sure I want to see this fight. It would be good money for both fighters but from a fans' perspective I'd rather see Cotto go another route. If Hatton can come back and get some good wins then maybe this fight becomes a viable option.


bearcat
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bearcat (67 Posts) on Sun 22-Nov-2009:

If you box in England fans there think you are great.  Hatton is an overrated pale faced fraud who when faced with high caliber competition folded like a chump.  Boxing average fighters in england does not make a great fighter. Hatton will be remembered as a monumental boxing failure and an embarrassment with limited skills and a penchant for collapsing when hit by a good fighter. Hatton should be relegated to living the rest of his days in shame. Don't put on boxing gloves Ricky put on a dress and heels.

Cestrian
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Cestrian (82 Posts) on Mon 23-Nov-2009:

how would you kow about what happens in England Bearcat ? You have never left the US... Hicks like you dont even own a passport. All six of your post you have made have been anti Hatton/UK..... with showing not a ounce of boxing knowledge....

I pity you and you dont even know why.


MM007
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MM007 (11 Posts) on Mon 23-Nov-2009:

That's a bit harsh on Hatton. He made the most of his talents and stepped up when he had to against Tszyu (all be it controversial in my bias Aussie view). Sure he was not P4P elite but definitely a future HOF and always entertaining. He seems like a real down-to-earth type of guy too.
However, at this stage in both their careers, Cotto would smash Hatton by KO. I think Cotto has a bit left to have another go at a World Belt but Hatton could be finished. Not to mention Hatton would have to go up to Welter and he has never performed convincingly at Welter opposed to Jnr Welter.


bearcat
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bearcat (67 Posts) on Tue 24-Nov-2009:

Hatton should redeem himself with a quality win against a good fighter before he can call himself a better than average fighter.  If Hatton lived in the states his record would be 500 at best.  Legends in England are average blokes to us americans.  Hatton would be a club fighter here where boxing is king.


mcboxing
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mcboxing (4 Posts) on Sun 13-Dec-2009:

I think the hatton-cotto fight is very likely, it makes sense to both fighters. there is good money for them both and i would gladly pay to watch it. I think if hatton was to lay on the pressure then the outcome would be hatton winning on points but thats if hatton can last that long!!!


mcboxing
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mcboxing (4 Posts) on Sun 13-Dec-2009:

just read your post bearcat and think your a bit out of order..... no what i mean to say is you dont know nothing about boxing. would like you to say all that to hattons face!!! yes he has failed a couple of times but think he did well against tzyu who was one of the best at the time. oh and hatton has neve called himself the best but he has given it all a good go and nothing wrong in keep on trying is there...... muppet!!


bearcat
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bearcat (67 Posts) on Tue 15-Dec-2009:

Listen up Hatton fans-Ricky rinky dink beat an aging slow Tzyu to get recognized. If he fights again it will have to be against a boxer because quality punchers destroy that crystal chin.  Cotto could be washed up-Hatton ought to fight Khan in Manchester. Marquez would also be a good match since Marquez got man raped by Mayweather. Hatton if he loses again in a marquee match will be remembered as an old english overrated pug who never won a meaningful fight and has a see through chin.


Shavanov
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Shavanov (1 Posts) on Wed 16-Dec-2009:

I think bearcat seems to be seeing things as most Americans do, with rose tinted glasses towards their own fighters.  There is no doubt that America is the largest boxing market in the world, and the place that boxers have to conquer, but their opinion of their own fighters has always been that of overhype and grandure.  For a country with so many fighters and a large population, they have very few world champions compared to other countries.  Admittedly they have 1 great fighter, Floyd Mayweather, and lets hope he fights Manny next year to prove who is the P4P best.
bearcat seems to think that by attacking the UK, and Hatton in particular, that he will forget their own woes.  What Americans want above all, and to be honest what their history deserves, is a heavyweight world champion.  No doubt bearcat will be jealous enough to **** off Englands new World heavyweight champ David Haye.  I can hear him now, he hasn't fought anyone, he is over protected, got a glass chin etc...........  But he is the HeavyWeight World Champion,  and Hatton is a 5 time, 2 weight world Champ.  Remember the old adage that golfers use, "there are no pictures on a scorecard", and for those of you who don't understand the meaning, it means it don't matter how you get to where you got to, or how pretty it was, the only thing that matters is that you got there!!
bearcat please develop some sense for christs sake, and stop trying to be provocative for the sake of it, and respect people for what they have achieved and not submit the world what your narrow biggoted mind.


bearcat
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bearcat (67 Posts) on Thu 17-Dec-2009:

I could care less about haye he hasn't been destroyed yet like hatton has been and embarrassed.  I was just stating that hatton never beat anyone good that could punch and was a fake champion that got exposed worldwide for the fraud that he was. If Hatton beats a battered down Cotto or a powder puff punching marquez then he redeems himself somewhat.  Freddie Roach called it the best when he stated that hatton wasn't a very good fighter and how Roach was surprised at how little hatton had. So it's not just me calling hatton a fraud but the foremost trainer in the world. Hatton can rule his manchester realm but on the world boxing stage he isn't relevant just another easy win for a quality champion or even a newcomer trying to make a name for himself.


Cestrian
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Cestrian (82 Posts) on Thu 17-Dec-2009:

You taking Freddie Roaches comments out of context to prove your own narrow minded point....

Freddie Roaches comments were intended as a dig at hattons trainner...who had digs at Freddy though out the build up.... Calling him a "joke coache" etc.

Post fight Freddie said he new hattons style better than he did and that he had the master plan to beat both Hatton and mayweather. He did say "he was not that good". But went on to say if Hatton had come to hime earlier in his career he would have improved him as a figher....

IT WAS A SLEDGE AY MAYWEATHER !! ...you have based all your entire 9 posts on somthing you did not get PMSL... 

Might be time to apply for a passport for the first time and get and see the world and grow that narrow mind of yours.

Hey you and Mrs/Sister could visit Manchester !


MJWJONES
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MJWJONES (1 Posts) on Fri 18-Dec-2009:

Bearcat; Im thinking your the type to jump to support who ever is winning at the time, I would not have been suprised to hear that you was a Hatton fan when he beat Kosta Zyu.
People like you talk like simply being born in the states suddenly makes you skilled, strong, fast, etc....and yet.....world wide there is a decline in american sports...the jamaicans are showing you how to sprint, the russians are schooling you in the ring, you dare not even try your hand at sports like rugby, instead sit behind the arguement that NFL is some how superior, and yet.....i cant ever remember a rugby side in the UK inviting ANY NFL player to try out...and yet....every now and then, a US NFL team will ask for a Rugby player to try his hand.
I would go as far as to say if ALi has been from the UK you would try and tell us all he was some how flawed and pathetic.
the simple fact of the matter is....every now and then a country is lucky to have a fighter who has skills, speed and desire to succeed.....and where as most of us will praise a fighter on his merit.....you simply look at his heritage, the language he speaks or where he was born and judge all his fighting ability upon those things.....
You dont even question fights, you accuse....you dont even offer insight or reflection, you simply talk about how UK this or UK that.....well if the states is so great....why is it our Cruiserweight David Haye doing what none of your heavy weights can do?
Let me guess....David Haye slaps, or he is fighting has beens etc....lol....pathetic


bearcat
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bearcat (67 Posts) on Sun 20-Dec-2009:

Haye beat a mechanical robot to win his title. I don't know how well Haye will do until he fights the 2 real champs. Again all you Brits defend Hatton but until he beats anyone good and not powder puff punchie Paulie M will he be recognized as as anything. Hatton if he chooses to fight a quality fighter and not a devasting puncher might be able to salvage something from his Manchester career.  Why would I also ever want to visit Manchester it looks like a dump. England has turned into a third world country with all the millions of muslims you have running amock everywhere. US is no better than a sewer also with all the immigrants.  Hatton I guess might try to redeem himself with a soft puncher who cannot hurt him and try and go out a winner.  Hatton is viewed on the US stage as a very average and limited pug. Good Day.


timbo
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timbo (2 Posts) on Sun 20-Dec-2009:

bearcat .... what a plum you are - just  the sort of pratt that gets americans a bad name just like george bush .Have a go at the muslims eh I suppose you hate Khan as well !Ricky Hatton is one of a few fighters that have boxed amateur in Cuba and won ...something you yanks arent particularly good at ! What about Calzaghe beating your legend B-hop i suppose that was luck as well . Go get yourself a brain and keep your racist and stupid comments to yourself ! 


bearcat
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bearcat (67 Posts) on Tue 22-Dec-2009:

Calzage beat an old Hopkins and an old Jones but Calzage was a great fighter.  Hatton is still overrated and very average. As for your country being over run by the camel riders that is just repeating what I keep on hearing from everyone who visits England.  Thay don't know what country they are in because of the mess it's become. I hope hatton fights some very average fighters in 2010 and gets a win or two.  Just don't let him face a qualified power puncher and get destroyed again. Hatton is a joke.


Predatordog
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Predatordog (6 Posts) on Wed 10-Feb-2010:

Cotto already has a fight line up against Yuri Foreman, while Hatton still deceiding when or who the hell he's gonna fight , this one has about as much chance of happening as a Roberto Duran comeback.Laughing


bearcat
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bearcat (67 Posts) on Mon 15-Feb-2010:

Hatton has to be matched against a shot fighter with limited skills because Hatton cannot fight period against any top caliber opponent. Hatton is just an over the hill pasty milk skinned England hyped  average boxer who made millions fooling the Brits against nothing oponents. Have Hatton  fight Clottey after he loses to Manny so Ricky can get stretched again for the world to see.  What a joke.


Cestrian
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Cestrian (82 Posts) on Wed 17-Feb-2010:

I have worked out who you are Bearcat..... !!

You refuse to acknowledge Hatton as world class despite the fact he is a 5 time 2 weights world champion. (6 times if the IBF would of handed over the belt for beating he handed out Paulie)

2) Your bitter....Like your passed your best

3) You keep making white jibes against him....

Are you Junior Witter !!!???


bearcat
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bearcat (67 Posts) on Wed 17-Feb-2010:

Cestrian:  Hatton is no more than a club fighter when he faces good competition. Hatton has limited boxing skills and is embarrassed when confronted with anyone with talent.  He has zero defense, poor training habits, great eating habits to put on 40 plus pounds between fights. Manchester is his kingdom and he should stay there as he has no place with the boxing elite. Same with his no talent brother who has nothing to offer but a KO waiting to be embarrassed. 2 sad fighters,legends in England but jokes everywhere else.


Luke
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Luke (24 Posts) on Thu 18-Feb-2010:

"Hatton has limited boxing skills and is embarrassed when confronted with anyone with talent."  
He has only lost to Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather, the two P4P best in the world, and two guaranteed future hall of famers. 
And are you trying to say that Tzsyu, Castillo, Malignaggi, Collazo, Urango, Tackie and Philips had NO talent, seeing as they didn't 'embarrass' him??
Think about what your saying please, at least respect the world class fighters who he has beaten if you can't respect the "over the hill pasty milk skinned England hyped average boxer" himself.
Hatton was never P4P material, but most world class fighters aren't. Hatton dominated the light welterweight division for years, that makes him world class.


bearcat
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bearcat (67 Posts) on Fri 19-Feb-2010:

Hatton has been exposed as a paper tiger with little skills.  To save whatever he has left of a shattered reputation he will be matched against only beatable opponents to try and give him some of his lost lustre. If he wants to go out on a winning streak watch the tomato cans he will be matched with.  Ricky has become a joke and is non essential in the boxing world. He was a fake champion created for the English boxing fans. In America he is looked upon as a club fighter with no skills or talent.


ndb
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ndb (1 Posts) on Fri 26-Feb-2010:

I think Cotto would destroy Hatton, Hatton was good at 14lbs because he was very large at that weght and able to "bully his opponents" i odn;t rate him as a two weight champ as think the collazo fight was an early xmas pressie for him. He was however a good light welter champion and world class fighter he was just never elit which was shown when he faced Mayweather and pac, however i think De la hoya, moseley, cotto P-will (when at 147 lbs) could have all proved this.

Hatton was simply a solid decent world champ jus never elite!


bearcat
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bearcat (67 Posts) on Fri 26-Feb-2010:

Hatton will go down as an okay fighter/boxer but not really a champion. Limited boxing skills, a weak chin, no defense relegates Hatton down with countless other pugs who will never be remembered.


Luke
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Luke (24 Posts) on Sat 27-Feb-2010:

Beercat, you really are a stupid idiot.
Did Ricky seduce your mum?
Are you the illegitimate love child of a drunk Ray Hatton?
Shut up and stop embarrassing yourself.
Hatton NEVER REMEMBERED?! HAHAHAHAHAHA! 35,000 Brits went OVER THE POND to watch him. Name another fighter who has gone even close to that. You are a fool. 


bearcat
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bearcat (67 Posts) on Sun 28-Feb-2010:

Hatton is one of the worst fighters to ever wear a belt. He is backed by thousands of unememployed drunks/losers who cheer for a fat loser. Hatton has limited skills and will never fight a contender that can punch again. His girl can probably knock him out. China chin has no future outside of meeting 200lbs  or 12 stones whatever you Brits call pounds or money.


Zelley
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Zelley (14 Posts) on Fri 5-Mar-2010:

Sad to see there are a few HATTON-Haters peddling
shovels of stuff that could fertize the wastelands
of Lancashire.
 
Hatton losing to Manny failed to take a single bar from the St George's Cross, so hardly think he caused harm to England.  So he lost a fight, so what - who hasn't lost a fight or two or more.


bearcat
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bearcat (67 Posts) on Fri 5-Mar-2010:

Hatton's masquerade as a fighter is over. He has been outed as a fraud and fake champion. He will drink himself into oblivion and shake hands with other pub dwellars. Sorry to see him go out on a losing note but he never was any good.  Hatton just faced average pugs who were beatable. Have another frothy one Ricky boy.


martian
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martian (5 Posts) on Tue 30-Mar-2010:

well they have both had bad losses to manny and i think it would be a good even fight , but who ever loses will have to retier but for the winning it might give them a boost they need and get another big fight


bearcat
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bearcat (67 Posts) on Fri 2-Apr-2010:

Ricky hatton is a gutless coward and a paper tiger who has been outed as a boxing fraud with little talent. What a chump with little talent and a mouth bigger than his punch. Crystal chin and all no talent bum


Luke
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Luke (24 Posts) on Fri 2-Apr-2010:

Bearcat, you sound like the only gutless coward here.
You have been chatting all this ****, but haven't explained yourself once. Your an idiot. Getting beat by Floyd and Manny makes you a gutless coward, so is DeLa Hoya in similar light? Your a mug. 


bearcat
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bearcat (67 Posts) on Fri 2-Apr-2010:

Ricky Hatton is a bum and a loser period!!!!


Luke
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Luke (24 Posts) on Sun 4-Apr-2010:

....with about £30 million in the bank. I'm sure he values your opinion! HAHAHA!


Cestrian
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Cestrian (82 Posts) on Sun 4-Apr-2010:

Just think how many banjo's and checked shirts you can buy for 30 million Bearcat. Your wife/sister would be so impressed as you sit on your porch whittling under the stars.... I hear the swamp gass gives a kind of green glow.


Marra
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Marra (21 Posts) on Tue 6-Apr-2010:

i to hope hatton doesn't come back into the ring, losing to mayfeather and manny is no disgrace and better to go out wearing you heart on your glove than running scared like clottley. the divide was just too big in terms of skill against manny but thats why he is P4P the best around. So he should end it there...a good champion not great but good.

Oh and BEARCAT thanks for making me laugh, but then retards have always made me laugh.


bearcat
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bearcat (67 Posts) on Fri 9-Apr-2010:

Hatton is a cake eater, fat slow and cannot take a hit.


DEL G
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DEL G (46 Posts) on Tue 13-Apr-2010:

Hi Bearcat! How was your weekend. I agree with some of the insight u seem to think u have on Hatton being overrated during his years at the top! However, Calling him a Pasty Faced Englishman who is a coward is utter nonsense. And thats coming from a Scotsman! NOT ONLY PEOPLE FROM MANCHESTER RESPECT HIM! History.


bearcat
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bearcat (67 Posts) on Wed 14-Apr-2010:

Hatton has accomplished nothing in boxing but lose terribly in his biggest 2 fights. He has zero quality wins on the world stage. Hatton might be a fighter in Manchester but that's it. No skills-No Talent-No balls.


DBO
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DBO (28 Posts) on Thu 15-Apr-2010:

I never imagined this thread would stay alive so long. I guess Hatton hate is an underestimated fuel! Nice work, gents.


bearcat
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bearcat (67 Posts) on Thu 15-Apr-2010:

Hatton makes me want to puke when I think of the money that no talent bum has made as an average boxer. It's a shame that boxing is that weak that either Hatton ever made any boxing news. If either Hatton has started in the US they would both have been club fighters, which they are now but it England they are heroes.  Sad for boxing sad for england.


DEL G
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DEL G (46 Posts) on Tue 20-Apr-2010:

TIME FOR THE HATTON FILES TO GO 2 BED I THINK GUYS. BEARCAT MAY HAVE A HEARTATTACK. LETS PUT IT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT UPCOMING BIG FIGHTS. MAYWEATER V MOSLEY. PERSONALLY I THINK FLOYD WILL GET A CONTROVERSIAL SPLIT BUT WOULD LOVE TO SEE SHANE SHUT THIS TALENTED,CRASS FOOL INTO RETIREMENT AND CONCENTRATE ON HIS RECORD LABEL. PEACE!


bearcat
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bearcat (67 Posts) on Sat 24-Apr-2010:

Ricky Hatton should fight in a bra and lace panties so no one hurts him anymore. The baby won't fight again unless it is against a cupcake he can beat.  Want a fake champion and loser.


DEL G
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DEL G (46 Posts) on Sat 24-Apr-2010:

BEARCAT. GET A GRIP. IS THIS A HATE HATTON OR A HATE BRITAIN CAMPAIGN! R U A CROSSDRESSER OR JUST ****IN US BRITS 4 THE SAKE OF IT. GO 2 A BASEBALL SITE !GOODNITE


bearcat
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bearcat (67 Posts) on Sun 25-Apr-2010:

just stating Hatton fights like a girl and has no business faking it as a boxer.  He is a patsy soft cake eater with no defense and no ability. Hatton is a bum.


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redbricks (6 Posts) on Mon 26-Apr-2010:

hatton is at the end of his time and has fought every one in his time, this kind of thing happens to most fighters , gues u dont know how long he has been around, i wish him well , and hope to see pacman and mayweather get it on soon


DEL G
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DEL G (46 Posts) on Mon 26-Apr-2010:

HERE, HERE REDBRICKS. BEARCAT! MAYBE U HAVE ONLY SEEN RICKY WHEN HE WAS ON AN AMERICAN JOURNEY WHICH TO BE HONEST WAS A DISASTER, CALLIN HIM A CAKE EATING GIRL IS A BIT IMMATURE. ANYWAY I DONT THINK, AND CERTAINLY I DONT HOPE TO SEE HIM FIGHT AGAIN. ESPECIALLY AFTER THE PAC K.O. HE DOESNT NEED THE CASH AND HE HAS A YOUNG SON TO THINK ABOUT. ANYWAY I GOT A DATE TONIGHT SO GOTTA GO. SHE IS FROM MANCHESTER! THINK SHE SAID HER NAME WAS RIKKI!


redbricks
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redbricks (6 Posts) on Mon 26-Apr-2010:

no i watched him from when he first started, not like some.its like tyson when he was in his hay days no one was as good but time passes and they are not like they were, hope to see some one as good as tyson  again 


DEL G
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DEL G (46 Posts) on Mon 26-Apr-2010:

IF WE COULD GET ANOTHER TYSON, THE GUY WOULD BE A BILLIONAIRE IN 10 YEARS. WE MIGHT HAVE TO WAIT ANOTHER 10- AT LEAST TO SEE SOMEONE WITH HIS DOMINANCE AGAIN. CAN U IMAGINE THE PRICE ON PPV THOUGH? 50 BUX PER BOUT. HELL I'D PAY IT.


redbricks
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redbricks (6 Posts) on Mon 26-Apr-2010:

who wouldent


bearcat
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bearcat (67 Posts) on Wed 28-Apr-2010:

Hatton to be remembered as a loser and a cupcake who was overrated and average at best. Sad to see him go out on his back but he was just a very average pug with little boxing ability when exposed bare outside of England. The picture of him stretched out cold in the middle of the ring for the world to see is his legacy as a fraud champion and he will be remembered as no chin Hatton.


redbricks
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redbricks (6 Posts) on Wed 28-Apr-2010:

lol lol lol 


bearcat
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bearcat (67 Posts) on Wed 28-Apr-2010:

Hatton out cold on his back what an exit from boxing.


duffybhoy
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duffybhoy (1 Posts) on Thu 29-Apr-2010:

bearcat your a rertard who knows nothing of the fine art probably never stood in a boxing ring your a coward who likes to run people down and mouth off biased opinions your a lonely geek with no friends and no girlfriend your probably a virgin aswell go away and play computer games


bearcat
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bearcat (67 Posts) on Thu 29-Apr-2010:

Hatton sleeping Ko'd again what a joke.  The shame of England and another loss for the Crown. Now his joke brother is saying he is a boxer also. Hattons are two bums who cannot fight, cannot win and cannot speak up. Sleep tight Ricky baby.


redbricks
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redbricks (6 Posts) on Thu 29-Apr-2010:

no wonder people think yanks are big mouthed sad


bearcat
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bearcat (67 Posts) on Fri 30-Apr-2010:

I am just repeating boxing experts who claim Hatton had no skills and was overrated. I like Calzage-Haye-Froch-Lewis because they back it up and have some skills. Ricky Hatton is basically skillless and made his fake reputation fighting tomato cans who couldn't box. Now they are trying to pass off his sissy brother as a fighter, give the boxing world a break.  Both Hattons should be carrying a lunch box and going to work in a factory. Boxers no way ever just complete jokes. Both Hattons should be arrested for impersonating badly a fighter.


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DEL G (46 Posts) on Fri 30-Apr-2010:

EXCUSE ME "BEARCAT" I AM BREAKIN MY RIBS AT YOUR COMMENTS , LAUGHIN  OUT LOUD , AND ALL DAT JAZZ. I THOUGHT WE HAD PUT THIS TO BED? I THINK U ARE THE "CUPCAKE" WHO HAS TO REALISE, 1. U HAVE MADE YOUR POINT. AND 2. THERE IS LIFE AFTER A "HATTON ****IN OBSESSION". GET A LIFE MATE! DO U TELL YOUR "BUDDIES" IN THERAPY ABOUT ALL THE **** WE ARE TALKIN AND HOW U KNOW ALL ABOUT THE HATTONS. "WATCHOUT" !! I THINK THEY MAY BE TALKIN ABOUT U AND YOUR "OBSESSION" NITE NITE "CUPCAKE" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


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DEL G (46 Posts) on Fri 30-Apr-2010:

SORRY 2 HOG THE "DEBATE" FOR 5MINS, BUT OUT OF ALL THE SUBJECTS THAT MARRA, CESTRIAN, WARDSTAR ETC. MAKE GOOD POINTS ON. WHY DOES "BEARCAT" ONLY APPEAR ON THE HATTON "DEBATE". I THINK YOU ARE JUST A PLANT ! OR AM I THE "PARANOID CUPCAKE" 4 THE RECORD, I WILL NOT RESPOND TO ANY OF "BEARCATS POSTS ON THIS SUBJECT" I SUGGEST U GUYS  DO THE SAME. ENJOY THE FIGHT 2MORO GUYS. GOTTA DRIVE "BEARCAT 2 THERAPY" I THINK WE ARE OFF TO "SHUTTER ISLAND 2"


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Marra (21 Posts) on Fri 30-Apr-2010:

HI DEL, I have only posted once on this debate before now and that is simply because of bearcat's almost stalker like obession with hatton which was a shame because other members had some good points on what could have been an interesting debate. Instead some idiot from pricksville usa decided to comment. I respect everyone's opinions on these forums whether i agree or disagree with them and would prefer to respond to these opinions on a boxing basis with facts and insight rather than talk out of my arse like bearcat. I will not respond to bearcat's drivel as he is only hoping to ignite an agressive response from british boxing fans. Like i said before retards make me laugh so i find him amusing.
And on that note hope to see everyone else's views and comments on other topics, enjoy the Mayweather vs Mosley fight.


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DEL G (46 Posts) on Fri 30-Apr-2010:

HERE,HERE MARRA. 100 PERCENT MY GOOD MAN. "PRICKSVILLE USA" ABSOLUTE SPOT -ON! RETARDS ALSO MAKE ME LAUGH AND ENJOY THE FIGHT. I WILL GET BACK TO LATER! PEACE.


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bearcat (67 Posts) on Fri 30-Apr-2010:

I must really bother you dudes with my Hatton is a joke comments because you keep coming back to defend the punchless wonder and gutless faker and paper tiger. Since your country is now over run by muslims you should just give up and let them run the country. Hatton is a joke was a joke and forever will be ajoke.


DEL G
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DEL G (46 Posts) on Fri 30-Apr-2010:

ANY PREDICTIONS OUT THERE??????? NOW U ARE ONLINE BEARCAT??? WITH SUGAR AND FLOYD? NOT HATTON??


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bearcat (67 Posts) on Fri 30-Apr-2010:

Mayweather will run for 12 rounds and get a decision because Old Mosley will get tired of chasing the elusive slick patty cake big mouth no class huckster who never has fought anyone good. Mayweathers corner(family) has more prison time served than anyone in boxing history but they sound so intelligent and bright in their comments it is confusing.


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DEL G (46 Posts) on Fri 30-Apr-2010:

HI BEARCAT. YOUR PREDICTION IS THE MOST PROBABLE OUTCOME IN THE EYES OF MOST FANS, MEDIA ETC. BUT I JUST THINK SHANES GOT ZIP TO LOSE AND WILL BE THE HARDEST HITTER FLOYD HAS EVER FACED. SO IF HE RUNS ALL NITE? SHANE WINS. HOPEFULLY BY K.O. NOW THAT WOULD BE GOOD 4 BOXING? DONT U THINK


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bearcat (67 Posts) on Fri 30-Apr-2010:

Mosley winning would be great for the sport of boxing but 38 year old fighters age quickly when they fight and chase a lightening quick mouse around for 12 rounds. Happened to Roy Jones he lost it fast. Mosley is past his prime but his corner is better and could help him more than that jungle jive Zulu crap Mayweather will hear in his corner with the street pimps giving advice.


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DEL G (46 Posts) on Sat 1-May-2010:

POSSIBLY TRUE. I JUST THINK SHANE GENUINELY BELEIVES HE CAN DO THIS. AND HOPEFULLY PULL OFF THE UPSET. ONLY A FEW HOURS TO GO LADS! ENJOY THE CHILLED BEER AND THE FIGHT. HOPEFULLY"THE CHOSEN ONE" WILL FIGHT AND NOT RUN ALL NITE, BUT I WONT HOLD MY BREATH. CANT WAIT THOUGH. LATER.


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bearcat (67 Posts) on Sat 1-May-2010:

They said Hatton was at the Mosley weigh- in last night in vegas what is he doing there looking for an opportunity to get knocked out by the loser of this fight??? Funny he would show his face anywhere champions are featured.


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DEL G (46 Posts) on Sun 2-May-2010:

like he was never a champion???????? u drunk BEARCAT?HATTON aint fightin 2nite, so he is not in my thoughts, and should not be in yours. enjoy the scrap and then u can get on HATTONS back and **** him the way u have done all the time. watch 2 greats of our generation and post your comments post fight. HATTONS IN YOUR HEAD THAT MUCH- YOUR ALMOST SUCKIN HIM OFF.


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bearcat (67 Posts) on Mon 3-May-2010:

Hatton was never a champion he might of had some belt but he was never a champion of anything.  Hatton was one of the worst fighters to stumble onto a belt and couldn't hold it any way. Bigman in Manchester-Big man in England but a joke in the rest of the boxing world.


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DEL G (46 Posts) on Wed 5-May-2010:

If all u can do is put fighters down (however bad in your eyes they may be) Then you will never be taken seriously. U now sound like a complete TOOL! END OF STORY.


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bearcat (67 Posts) on Wed 5-May-2010:

Hatton gets put down by me in posts and gets put down and out in the ring by others. Poor guy like Hatton can't win anywhere. That is why Hatton quit boxing in disgrace he was terrible and got exposed as a fraud.


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DEL G (46 Posts) on Sat 15-May-2010:

HI. ITS RICKY HERE ? FANCY A CHAT "CUPCACKE"???????????????


DEL G
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DEL G (46 Posts) on Sat 15-May-2010:

HI. ITS RICKY HERE ? FANCY A CHAT "CUPCACKE"???????????????


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Luke (24 Posts) on Sun 16-May-2010:

Bearcat is the only joke in boxing. Never laced up the gloves. Never given a respectable opinion in boxing. He respected Froch for his skills!!! HAHAHA! Bearcat is the only joke in this forum!!


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bearcat (67 Posts) on Sun 16-May-2010:

Just stating facts from the world boxing community that Hatton was an over hyped no talent limited fighter who got exposed as a fraud on the big stage.  Needless to say that is why he quit a loser when Hatton realized his skills were limited against quality opponents who could fight.  Hatton cannot fight again because he has realized he is very average as a pug and outside of his home area he is basically a zero as a boxer. Hatton is a bum. Froch is a blue collar fighter who tries hard to fight and gives his all when Froch gets put to sleep ala Hatton then my opinion of him might change. Froch still has a chance to develop into a  solid contender never a great champion. Hatton had very little to work with skill wise that is why he will stay in the boxing gutter. Froch might bounce back and beat Abraham.


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Blunderbuss (13 Posts) on Mon 17-May-2010:

hatton can be described simply, good LW who came up short against the two best boxers of his generation, nothing to be ashamed about.  best in europe by a long way for 5 or 6 years and only a few in the world who could beat him.  unfortunately his lifestyle meant he would burn out quick.  should have dumped warren and come to america a lot sooner.
froch is a good fighter who if he was busier would do a lot better doesnt throw enough leather to win fights but has a lot of power.


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DEL G (46 Posts) on Mon 17-May-2010:

Nicely summed up mate. Can u take note of this post by Blunderbuss, BEARCAT? Clear, Truthful and straight to the point!! NO-ONE from these shores and this forum has ever claimed Ricky Hatton to be any more than has already been said. Never was gonna be the worlds best at WELTER but STILL had the balls(u have called him a coward) to move up and give it a shot. Lost, (unashamedely) to the best the world had to offer in PAC and FLOYD. So drop the hate mate. Lifes too ****in short. Praise good fighters, dont call them cowards. lets move on!!!!


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bearcat (67 Posts) on Mon 17-May-2010:

Hey I agree, Hatton tried and tried hard but failed in his quest outside of home to be a factor. I think with a better trainer and better conditioning he might have maximized the little skill he had and been a better opponent. He had the courage to step into the ring and I give him credit for that. Now I watch the same thing with that joke of a brother Matthew thinking he can box.  Both hattons need to realize their limitations and Ricky has and as long as Matt stays at home he can last in England because there is little comp there so he can mask his lack of boxing skills and fight for a few more years.  I also think Froch could be a better fighter if he would shut up and just fight and maybe face some good competion, Kessler is limited and would be like Hatton if he fought in the states. Again I close with saying it is good Hatton has realized his lack of ability and stays retired. Now watch Haye beat the robot Russian and you have a real champion.


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DEL G (46 Posts) on Mon 17-May-2010:

I tend to agree with you BEARCAT on the skills of MATT HATTON. I only see a c-class fighter at best. To be honest, i have only watched M/H a handful of times as i dont think he is entertaining at all. As for HAYE? I think he could beat VLAD but i reckon VITALI would mess him up pretty bad. On the whole though, the h/w division is Stand-Up Comedy to me. Cant remember the last good fight at that level? PEACE.


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bearcat (67 Posts) on Tue 18-May-2010:

Not sure but I think Haye could and will beat both Klitchskos. Only concern is will he get worn down by fighting huge robots who will lean on him and drain him if possible of his stamina. Matt Hatton is just a sparing partner but watch him get moved around into winnable fights and make his millions. Key to boxing is to get easy fights make millions and get out in time to realize who you are and what day it is.


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DEL G (46 Posts) on Tue 18-May-2010:

Hopefully HAYE will get to meet both the KLITCHKOS, AND be victorious. But where does vhe go after that? he said "3 more fights and i will probably retire". By then he will be 31 or so with no-one that i can think of to fight, or that would sell. as for M. HATTON??? I live not very far from a boxer called WILLIE LIMOND(he fought KHAN a couple of years ago and put him on the floor) He is a very good boxer and could easily beat M. HATTON. And he fights at L/W. I think that says it all!!


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bearcat (67 Posts) on Tue 18-May-2010:

Once Haye for once starts getting some big pay days via HBO-Showtime-PPV and I mean big if he wins the title and would defend in the US he will make some big dollars and then won't retire until he makes his couple of a hundred million like a Tyson or a Holyfield. I am not sure if Haye can take a shot to the jaw yet but we will find out, if he has some charisma and can get a fan following big big bucks will follow but I think he will have to cross the water to get the really big money in Vegas. Matt Hatton is a complete joke and a fraud with zero talent and has been matched real carefully so as not to be exposed for his lack of talent. Let Ricky match his brother and check out the gate totals.


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DEL G (46 Posts) on Tue 18-May-2010:

I think the US would take to HAYE if he beats a KLITCHKO and the money would snowball for him. It looks like its VLAD first, and if he can win that ? Hopefully VITALI, although he may be mechanical. I think he would KO HAYE late in the fight. However, i am not a fan of the h/w division. Havent been since LEWIS-HOLYFEILD times.


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robbiemagic (12 Posts) on Wed 19-May-2010:

Mmmm only jsut picked up on your little cat fight... seems to have sorted itself now. Agree wiht comments re Matthew Hatton. Haye i am not sure what will happen against either Klitschko - Vlad certainly the easier of the 2 but the last thing i want to see is Haye dancing around scoring points; the jab of Vlad will be significant - if Haye can deal with that he has a good chance - i would dearly love to see them both ko'd but i am not sure it will happen. Froch, i agree he doesnt work hard enough and leaves it too late - its like he is waiting for something in a fight that aint gonna come at the top level; his work ethic needs to change as he has the skills to jab and move and win rounds easily - along with the power to ko anybody in his weight division. Like the look of John Murray at the moment, interesting to see what he does when he steps up in class. Cheers boys!


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bearcat (67 Posts) on Sat 19-Jun-2010:

What ever happened to Ricky the sissy a Cotto fight now would be great for him.  Call it sleeping again in the ring again my story by Ricky no chin glass jaw lost a pair somewhere Hatton.


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Zoo (1 Posts) on Sat 7-Aug-2010:

Throughout this website, you will see negative, small minded comments.

90% of the time they will be posted by a fool call 'Bearcat'


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bearcat (67 Posts) on Sat 7-Aug-2010:

Baby scared hatton too frightened to fight Cotto or Kahn so hattie goes into retirement-maybe. Till a lesser opponent and an easy win can be found.


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robbiemagic (12 Posts) on Tue 24-Aug-2010:

I doubt he is too scared; the fact is Hatton forged a good and fruitful career based on limited boxing skills - i applaud him for that cos he got in the ring with 2 genuine hall of famers (lost badly on both occasions) but he managed to get there. Well managed, hard working (i wont say well trained cos i dont think he was) and dedicated to his sport. I agree with you on one thing Bearcat - he would be blown away by Khan and Cotto, even with his chequered recent form, is too good for him too. Sometimes you know when you have achieved all you can and its time to go - my prediction is Hatton knows this and we wont see him again - the speculation benefits his burgeoning promoting career. Good luck to him.


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bearcat (67 Posts) on Wed 25-Aug-2010:

Hatton realized his limitations and retired and he tried his best and it didn't work out for him. Hattie gave a great effort and 100% heart. He should walk high and proudly for trying and missing out.


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bearcat (67 Posts) on Tue 14-Sep-2010:

Poor drug addicted rickie now swimming in the sewers of addiction and alcoholism.  So sad and he will lose his only son but it is the right thing for the child to be in  drug free home. So sad to see snortin rickie sucking a few lines up his nostrils.


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DEL G (46 Posts) on Sun 19-Sep-2010:

Yes Bearcat....Poor Ricky snorting line after line of cocaine. It really is a sad situation. But he has family and friends to help him through this terrible affliction on society. Its highlt addictive. But he will get clean and be cured of this self inflicted illness. It could be worse though. He could be just like you.........a negative peice of **** who sniffs his grandmas Knickers..........Maybe you need rehab aswell.


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bearcat (67 Posts) on Mon 20-Sep-2010:

Hatton is the alcoholic and druggie not the Bearcat. Hatton choose the devils way the Bearcat chose the other path-the clean way of living. Hatton dwells in the sewer of corruption while the Bearcat enjoys lifes blessings. Life is all about choices-just choose wisely my friends.


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DEL G (46 Posts) on Tue 21-Sep-2010:

Bearcat,,,,,you are actually quite funny man:)


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