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Topic: David Haye
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MilesSt
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MilesSt (6 Posts) on Thu 12-Aug-2010:

What the **** happened to this guy?  He fought a washed up Ruiz and now has dissapeared from sight.  When is he going to fight again, and against whom?  He was full of bravado and confidence when he was claiming he was the saviour of the heavyweight division; and now no one hears a peep out of him.  Why doesn't he step up and start cleaning out the division as he was constantly proclaiming he was going to do?  He doesn't have to fight another title holder, but at least take on someone credible; and by that I do NOT mean Audley Harrison.  Is that the best he can do?  My god, the next thing you know he'll be taking on James Toney or Evander Holyfield. 


bearcat
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bearcat (67 Posts) on Thu 12-Aug-2010:

Haye is the coward of london.  with a yellow streak a mile wide after calling out both of the klits and then hiding from them. Sad this coward is allowed to be even called a fighter.


wardstar
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wardstar (55 Posts) on Fri 13-Aug-2010:

Hey Bearcat i bet you wouldn't call David Haye a coward to his face you muppet. As to the other post as to where Haye has gone after shouting his mustashe off, my guess is that after recently having another child he is doing the Father thing, you no sleepless nights, ****ty nappies, you get the message. As for his projected fight with Audley Harrison, in my oppinion if he takes this fight he will make himself look the bigest fraudster in heavyweight boxing after his ' stop fighting bums and fight me ' comments to Wladimir Klitchko. And with the projected Klitchko fights that have fallen through due to contractual/revenue differences he must now face a credible opponent or risk serious ridicule. I do believe Haye will face one of the Klitchko's next summer in a massive event in London or Germay so in the mean time were just going to have to put up with just about the most boring spell of heavyweight championship boxing and the pantomime that will undoubtably ensue. Peace x


bearcat
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bearcat (67 Posts) on Sat 14-Aug-2010:

Haye is the coward of London and iIwould call him a coward personally and would love to meet him anywhere. Cowards die many times before their deaths and haye biy has died many times. haye is boxings joke and englands shame.


wardstar
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wardstar (55 Posts) on Sat 14-Aug-2010:

Bearcat your 'cowards die many times before their deaths' comment struck a chord, its easy for someone to hide behind a computer and disrespect just about every non American citizen/boxer on the plannet. So i say to you Bearcat Cowards die many times before their deaths dude and your nine lives are just about up cat. Peace x


bearcat
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bearcat (67 Posts) on Sun 15-Aug-2010:

Poor brits so pathetic and weak supporting the coward haye is so sad but expected from so many lacking sports heroes that have actually done anything. How terrible it must be living in that drab wet bleak blot of land without anything to look forward to. Poor britties.


Pavlos2009
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Pavlos2009 (7 Posts) on Sun 15-Aug-2010:

Bearcat,you post some good stuff, but this personal issue with Britain is really uncalled for. Where you coming out with this stuff when Lennox Lewis was champ?
Everyone has a tendency to support their own...is America really any different? And while we're on that subject,glancing at the top ten heavyweights,I'd say the Brits have more to look forward to than we have. We have fatty Arreola.
Don't get me wrong...the Hayes rants are getting tiresome,especially as they're not backed up.
As for Haye not being known in the US, I bet you any money that Joe Public doesn't know who the Klitschkos are either.
They would if they were American.


bearcat
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bearcat (67 Posts) on Sun 15-Aug-2010:

ESPN has been calling haye david the ducker which is pretty neat. I still personally like the coward of london but the ducker is fine. Trust me the Klits are well known in America-well educated clean cut no tattoos or markings and meet and face and stand up to all challenges. Not anythink like the coward haye and the bucket of vomit he carries around from his gutless comments. As I have stated earlier it is a shame haye has brought britain such shame and disgrace but aren't the brits known for their cowardice???


Pavlos2009
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Pavlos2009 (7 Posts) on Tue 17-Aug-2010:

Wow...you really do have a problem with the British. At least you're honest about your xenophobia I suppose....no need to try and dress it up as actual boxing analysis. I think they've had plenty of brave fighters...Nigel Benn springs to mind for example.
If the British are cowards,then we're well and truly screwed...they're the only ones who take our side in anything.
Asked around in work today by the way,and no-one..I repeat,no-one, knew who the hell I was talking about when I mentioned the Klitschkos.
 
 


bearcat
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bearcat (67 Posts) on Tue 17-Aug-2010:

Toney called out Haye as gay today in an article.  pretty funny if Haye isn't married and with kids. He kind of acts feminine haye does. Wonder where Toney is going with his comments. Must want a fight. Most people don't know who any boxers are or their names.

Pavlos2009
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Pavlos2009 (7 Posts) on Tue 17-Aug-2010:

I actually think it'd be cool to have a major boxing star come out as gay....it'd help shatter the stereotype of them as being knuckle-scrapers.I always thought Oscar De La Hoya was gay.
As for Toney,always entertaining but not surprising! He's just as trashy as Haye in the talking department...hell,even less classy than B-Hop,and that's saying something!


bearcat
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bearcat (67 Posts) on Tue 17-Aug-2010:

If haye is gay that explains why he is acting so feminine. Good for Toney for calling that out.  Wonder if haye is married. haye must have these  deep personal issues he is struggling with and fighting isn't important right now.


robbiemagic
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robbiemagic (12 Posts) on Thu 19-Aug-2010:

Ive read loads of your comments 'bearcat' and all in all i find you entertaining and moderately knowledgeable regarding boxing. However after reading more and more of your offensive diatribe that doesnt have any objective or intellectual merit i have decided to give you a dressing down (purely metaphorical not homosexual). You are clearly a very sad, lonely person who gets his kicks and self-esteem from being a faceless commentator, taking out all your pent up anger (caused by who knows what) on people that simply want to debate boxing. As for your anti-British stuff.....did you get beaten up when you visited London or something?! You really have got some deep-seated problems that i advise you sort out before getting into a childish blog battle. Beercat, listen to me........ take a couple of deep breaths before letting those immature fingers do the talking on the keyboard..... you know i'm right - do the honourable thing and moderate your behaviour. Have a great day, look forward to catching up soon.


Marra
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Marra (21 Posts) on Sat 21-Aug-2010:

Pavlos, RobbieMagic: Hi gents, good to see you fella's giving some input but as usual bearcat is on his anti british soap box again. As you have no doubt read his earlier post's this guys just waits for people to reply to his posts so he can have another spew fest on british boxers. Take my advice gents and just stop posting to anything he has a say in (which is a shame i know cos when he actually talks about boxing he has some fair points). Would have put in my pennies worth about Haye but i won't be giving that pillock the satisfaction.


robbiemagic
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robbiemagic (12 Posts) on Tue 24-Aug-2010:

Thanks for the advice Marra, however my understanding of a blog-chatroom call it what you will is that we exchange views - i have done that now and Bearcat can leave it there cos i just wanna talk boxing.

Haye - Harrison! What a joke - it will sell though but its an embarrassment for Haye to take this fight in my view. Ive always liked Harrison to be honest, he has good skills but no heart and he just doesnt work hard enough in any fight. Hopefully he will be up for this one (if it happens) cos if he isnt he will be ko'd in 3 rounds pretty easily.


bearcat
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bearcat (67 Posts) on Wed 25-Aug-2010:

 Sad to see haye is such a coward. Poor britties all monarchy drained and infested on an island over run with foreigners and no place to go. If haye comes out of the closet so be it. Just fight. Sad to see the little britties get mad but the Bearcat realizes  there is not much to live for on that dank island. Keep your tea cups full and don't forget America is here to protect you defenseless britties.


DEL G
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DEL G (46 Posts) on Wed 25-Aug-2010:

CryBearcat...................That was below the belt. Now now son. Has Grandma been hittin you again???Surprised Here......Have some hot chocolate and tell us aaaaalllllllllllll about itTongue out


robbiemagic
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robbiemagic (12 Posts) on Wed 25-Aug-2010:

Bearcat i think you are on the wrong website; we are talking boxing not international politics you plank.


bearcat
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bearcat (67 Posts) on Wed 25-Aug-2010:

Poor haye is being laughed at by the multitudes with his cowardice but it must be an english thing but only America cannot protect haye and his fears and lack of respect. Give Harrison the fight have it in London and keep all you britties excited about something for a change. Bearcat still laughing at you poor souls.


Tony
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Tony (1 Posts) on Thu 26-Aug-2010:

I used to really like Haye. Saw loads of his early fights, including the KO loss to the CAT. Last time I bothered was against Enzo - £140 for a seat MILES away from the fight, never again. He used to be Mr Excitement, not anymore, he just has a big mouth, and only seems to be interested in making huge pay-per view money, and isn't really interested in any kind of legacy. I now find him really boring. Actually, I'm boring myself with this post. When is dinner ready?


MilesSt
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MilesSt (6 Posts) on Mon 30-Aug-2010:

I was just reading about the "war of words" taking place on twitter between haye and harrison.  Is this for real?  Does haye believe boxing fans are really that stupid?  How can a fighter posture and pontificate like haye has done, and then do absolutely nothing to back it up?  Calling out audley harrison??  You couldn't write a sadder more disgusting script for this guys career if you tried.  What a useless fraud.


bearcat
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bearcat (67 Posts) on Tue 31-Aug-2010:

Haye the english coward is a disgrace to boxing. His feminine demeanor and closet lifestyle demeans the sport and his lack of courage is disgraceful. Haye should be stripped of his meaningless title and be given a new outfit to parade around in. Yep a real english man haye is. The coward of london.


Maximus
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Maximus (2 Posts) on Thu 2-Sep-2010:

Ha ha this really is a laugh. Bearcat is either connected to K2 or has a thing about the monotonous mechanical monstrosities that are the terrible, terrible, abysmal to watch Klitschko Brothers,. either that or a closet fag who fancies climbing inbetween the Bitschkos and being the meat in the gay brother sandwich. You know which one don't you sugar.....


bearcat
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bearcat (67 Posts) on Thu 2-Sep-2010:

David closet queen haye the coward of london and the pride of the britties has no jewels so to speak so haye hides amongst the britties and is looked upon as a hero.  Poor brits nothing to live for and no heroes to cheer for.  Sad.


Rain
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Rain (8 Posts) on Fri 10-Sep-2010:

Haye v Harrison is a joke.

Im losing respect for Haye, he has chased the Klits through shopping centres, constantly attacted them verbally, made stupid t-shirts and when he finally gets his wish of a 50/50 split he is silent until the Klits have agreed fights then announces he is fighting Harrison who he said he would never fight.

So much for cleaning out the division.


nugget
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nugget (4 Posts) on Sun 12-Sep-2010:

Funny how the Klits only fight stiffs who read the script. When it comes to negotiating with Haye they have a return clause plus then fight my brother clause. I think there's more to this than meets the eye. They have a good little (or bigger tan we think) earner filling halls in Germany, their opponents are carefully selected.

The titles will only leave them if we have a major miscalculation by their handlers, like Corrie Sanders was (he never read the script).

Bearcat, eat your grits and go back to bed with your cousin.


bearcat
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bearcat (67 Posts) on Tue 14-Sep-2010:

haye the disgrace of england the coward of london the gutless wonder of the UK island. The poor britties are loving a whip and a sissie but that is the brit way. So sad to be british the world is laughing at haye and the brits.


nugget
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nugget (4 Posts) on Wed 15-Sep-2010:

Bearcat,

I told you to go back to bed!!!!!

Now F**k off and play with your cousin.


bearcat
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bearcat (67 Posts) on Thu 16-Sep-2010:

haye the coward has no where to run the klits are coming. the feminine haye the shame of UK island. So sad to be a brit no heroes all zeros. Sad brits.


Maximus
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Maximus (2 Posts) on Thu 16-Sep-2010:

Hey there Bareback, glad you enjoyed the G-Boy, sorry, K-Bro shoe on Sat. The rest of us thought it was ****. Pele Reid KO Viltali K-bro(look it up you ignorant c*nt), Ross Purritty KO Wlad K B-bro. Corrie Sanders KO Wlad K-bro, Lamon Brewster KO Wlad-K-bro... David Haye KO both K-boys (if Shannon hasn't the old one first) Young K boy on the floor ELEVEN times in his career and you think he will stand up to Haye?!?! HaHaHahAAHAHAHHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA 


bearcat
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bearcat (67 Posts) on Thu 16-Sep-2010:

not sure who is dumber haye or hatton one a coward the other a snorter. But both the pride of the english. Must be great to be a brittie no heroes to cheer for all wet and damp and stuck on a miserable island. Maximus really an intelligent post well versed.


Drewstar
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Drewstar (1 Posts) on Tue 21-Sep-2010:

Bearcat...what's this whole hero thing you keep you keep going on about?  I'd be interested to know who your heroes from the states are.  Captain america perhaps?  Yosemite Sam? Ronald MacDonald?


bearcat
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bearcat (67 Posts) on Tue 21-Sep-2010:

Haye and hatton one a coward the other a shameful example of life's excesses and addictions. Brit heroes but American zeroes. Cheered in Britain but booed and laughed at by the Yanks.  So sad to be a brittie.


robbiemagic
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robbiemagic (12 Posts) on Tue 21-Sep-2010:

I tell you what Bearcat you really are a psychologists dream - exposing all your insecurities on an international blog. Boxing is boxing; its a game of entertainment and business, i thought you were knowledgeable about it?! Nothing should surprise us about it, its track record tells us nothing else.
As for your anti-British rants..... i ask my question again; did you have your fat donut expelling ass kicked when you visited London to see the Queen - or are you one of those sad in-breds that doesnt know what a passport is.....?
Chin chin old boy


bearcat
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bearcat (67 Posts) on Wed 22-Sep-2010:

Why would the Bearcat visit London to see a 90 year old hag and her big eared son? Why would anyone visit a sewer like London maybe haye???


nugget
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nugget (4 Posts) on Thu 23-Sep-2010:

The best thing to come out of Greenbow Alabama was Forrest Gump, a fine figure of a man, a national icon, personally I like America and loved the film.

Bearcat however is probably unable to run, or apply for a US passport because his brother is probably his dad, shame.


bearcat
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bearcat (67 Posts) on Wed 6-Oct-2010:

Coward Haye to Fight BEARCAT in a cage match for charity to benefit Prince Chuck's ear reduction surgery.


CraigPa
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CraigPa (4 Posts) on Fri 8-Oct-2010:

Deluded....

This Forum is not about a bitter twisted moron called Bearcat.

So can we start talking boxing rather than Bullsh*t ?

Haye would destroy any American Heavyweight out there at present. If anyone disagrees please enlighten us so we know which US "Superstars" to watch out for !


bearcat
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bearcat (67 Posts) on Sat 9-Oct-2010:

Haye legally declared a coward by British Goverment and asked to leave London in shame. Haye to change his name to Bill Hatton.


Zelley
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Zelley (14 Posts) on Sun 10-Oct-2010:

bearcat blarny keeps rolling on

bearcat your a funny guy with your brit bashing

i liked the one about you wanting to meet david haye
and would without toungue in cheek tell him he is a coward
net you will be pulling our legs about wanting to meet
hatton for a cool wet one and you will even provide the funny smokes.

Now, it would be nice if Hye cleaned up the heavyweight
division, but even the great JOE LOUIS had his
so called "Bum of The Month" period. Of course, not too many would waltz up to a TONY GALENTO and call him a bum unless he was
.'Bearcat, the Braveheart Brit Basher"

from the comedy cental review


Cestrian
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Cestrian (82 Posts) on Fri 12-Nov-2010:

Haye comes in at 15 stone !!

A little light if you ask me ! I dont understand why he has come in so light when he would have still had the speed advantage at his last weight for Ruiz (close to 16 stone). I would like to have seen him grow in his weight if anything - this should be preperation for fighting kilt brothers and he needs to be around and above that 16 stone mark....

I just hope he blow Fraudly out nice and early because.... 1) when your 3 stone lighter you dont take a punch as well. 2) If Audly uses his weight in clinches and leans on him on the ropes then its going to drain haye.

Still think he will smash him.... But a shrinking heavyweight is going to please Wlad and Vitali. We all know a good Big guy will always beat a good little guy... ! He needs to be growing !

That said Frauldy is not that good... If you watch him labour in the Sprott fights (even before he did his shoulder in the 2nd) you will see where Haye will murder him.


Marra
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Marra (21 Posts) on Sun 14-Nov-2010:

Pathetic....thats the only word that sums up fraudley. I was debating whether to buy tickets for this fight as the atmosphere in the M.E.N was fantastic for the Ruiz fight. THANK YOU audley your reputation as a **** fighter saved me £70 quid. As for haye well at least he had to train for this fight, but losing more in the weight department was a mistake i think. If Haye had have come in a bloated fat 18 stone he would have still move with more speed than audley. Everyone is/was criticising Haye for taking this fight, when in fact everyone should be patting him on the back for possibly putting the last nail in fraudley's career coffin, hopefully we have seen the last of this clown.


Cestrian
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Cestrian (82 Posts) on Mon 15-Nov-2010:

Me old Mate Marra - Again you tell it how it is ! Nothing like world class live fight.... I do miss the big fights here in Sydney, I am stuck watching Mundane knock out powder puffs. I am Glad to hear you and the boys kept your cash in your pocket for this one. It was never going to be a Joe V Kessler

Fraudly thought he could hang on for 7 rounds and do what Carl Thompson did and come to the party after Haye was blowing. Two problems with that.....

1) Haye was kid when he punched himself out back then and he is far more conditioned complete fighter. Fighting at a more mature pace.

2) Carl Thompson was a warrior with a good chin with near supernatural powers of recovery and was only too happy to have a war... Dragging the young Hay into the trenches.....Saturday night Haye was never going to punch himself out against Fraudly cowering and backtracking with a high guard. He was expending no gas at all stalking him ready to unload.

Fraudly had one chance... A punchers chance, to come out blazing round 1, like he did against Williams 2nd fight and sprott 1 st fight....!

In those two fight he won one with a great stopage and an got countered and sparked in the second. The point is he rolled the dice and was threat in both fights because he was using his size and power. If he had done that on Sat he would of very likely got counter and stopped however he would of had a small chance and he would of made a fight of it for the fans. He could of slumped off into retirement knowing he never made it but he gave it a go. Now he will be rembered as a joke.

I will be intrested to hear what everyone thinks we learned from Haye on Sat ? Is he Ready for a pair of Kilts ? Did he look better at his new skinny 15 stone ? or do we want him up at 16 stone or even heavier ? Will the brothers be worried at the new smaller Haye ?


MilesSt
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MilesSt (6 Posts) on Tue 16-Nov-2010:

Check out the video at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fY7XMOG2Qjw - you can clearly see haye nodding and telling harrison "now" before he knocks him down.  The fight is quite clearly a fix.  It really is pathetic how british boxing fans got jobbed by a couple of no-talent posers. 


sag
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sag (9 Posts) on Sun 2-Jan-2011:

After reading through the past few months of Haye and Brit bashing that Bearcat has clearly set about, what about puting your money where your mouth is son?
When Haye and Vladimir finally meet this year, as you seem so sure of yourself, what odds are you giving on Haye being put on his behind? Cos here is one Brit who will take a bet on with you just as I feel sure many others will also, cos Haye is gonna beat glassjaw Vladimir and it will be easy. 
So until you set your odds and accept bets, what about changing your name to pussycat, cos bearcat just doesnt sit well! However, I do think you're funny pussycat for actually saying you would tell Haye to his face he is a coward, easy to say across the pond and banging away on a computer isnt it?
Thanks for the laugh anyway.
TINYGBSTU


sag
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sag (9 Posts) on Thu 6-Jan-2011:

In the words of Tom Jones........."Pussycat", "Pussycat", where are you?
You seem stuck for words Bearcat! Sorry "Pussycat"!


sag
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sag (9 Posts) on Thu 6-Jan-2011:

In the words of Tom Jones........."Pussycat", "Pussycat", where are you?
You seem stuck for words Bearcat! Sorry "Pussycat"!


Zelley
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Zelley (14 Posts) on Thu 13-Jan-2011:

THE BEARCAT RUNNING FOR COVER


Zelley
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Zelley (14 Posts) on Thu 13-Jan-2011:

brit basher bearcat

it seems our friend bearcat is ducking from some follow-up comments from others - he wins a blue ribbon for brit bashing - but  an easy win as any tomato can can win if they are talking through two sides of their mouth in the safety of their computer desk far far from ringside or the gym.


joeshine
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joeshine (4 Posts) on Fri 14-Jan-2011:

funny britties so soft and weak. The BEARCAT is the true King of England and rules all you dimwitted miserable puny britties. The BEARCAT knows all and sees all especially  you weak English wimps with the ugly woman.  Haye and hatton both losers and laughable. THis site is terrible so the BEARCAT doesn't get on it much. But you ladies are a sorry lot. Pricne Chuckies ears to you all and the old dried out shriveled hag queenie./


sag
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sag (9 Posts) on Mon 17-Jan-2011:

So out of the woodwork comes Joeshine in defense of PUSSYCAT. Another brave yank who bangs away on his computer and hides across the ocean! Well Joeshine, your output sounds very much like PUSSYCAT'S, so are you really PUSSYCAT hiding behind another name?
Your trash rubbish does not warrant an answer, so might I suggest that if you are not PUSSYCAT, that the both of you ride off hand in hand in the sunset , and drown yourselves!


sag
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sag (9 Posts) on Mon 17-Jan-2011:

So out of the woodwork comes Joeshine in defense of PUSSYCAT. Another brave yank who bangs away on his computer and hides across the ocean! Well Joeshine, your output sounds very much like PUSSYCAT'S, so are you really PUSSYCAT hiding behind another name?
Your trash rubbish does not warrant an answer, so might I suggest that if you are not PUSSYCAT, that the both of you ride off hand in hand in the sunset , and drown yourselves!


sag
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sag (9 Posts) on Mon 17-Jan-2011:

So out of the woodwork comes Joeshine in defense of PUSSYCAT. Another brave yank who bangs away on his computer and hides across the ocean! Well Joeshine, your output sounds very much like PUSSYCAT'S, so are you really PUSSYCAT hiding behind another name?
Your trash rubbish does not warrant an answer, so might I suggest that if you are not PUSSYCAT, that the both of you ride off hand in hand in the sunset , and drown yourselves!


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joeshine
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joeshine (4 Posts) on Mon 7-Mar-2011:

so when is the skank marry the wimp prince? hatton sure is a good looking pasty pale wimp also. britties are a mess. haye get KO'd in four rds.


sag
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sag (9 Posts) on Mon 7-Mar-2011:

So Joeshine you reckon Haye will last four rounds? So big man, now's the time to put your money where your big mouth is, what odds are you giving Mr overconfident? Cos I reckon Haye wins in 6 rounds.
My guess is you will now go all quiet like your bestest special friend Bearcat, sorry, Pussycat. So com'on Josey make it interesting, quote your odds cos I'm sure there are a few fellow Brits who will take you on as well as me!  By the way, shame there aint no American Heavys around anymore isn't it? The old green monster is a funny old thing is it not? Sorry, I forgot, you still have old man Holyfield and that young prospect Tye Fields or what about Michael Grant I hear he's up and coming!
SAG


Cestrian
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Cestrian (82 Posts) on Tue 8-Mar-2011:

I have a strong feeling Wlad will pull out with a "injury" nudge nudge wink wink..... and Haye will fight Vitali instead. Wlad is made for Haye - Haye will knock him cold in 3-4 rounds.

Vitali can weather the storm..... come on strong and either stop haye on win on points with the help of the German judges. Haye has to stop him he wont get anything over there if it goes 12 ! Everyone knows that !

 If they do pull this switch stunt then it will damage boxing for good !


sag
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sag (9 Posts) on Tue 8-Mar-2011:

Good comment Cestrian, I think I agree with you. Whilst I would love Haye to beat both the Klits, and I do think he will beat Vladimir, I think Vitali looks just that bit more solid and will be a bridge to far. Mind you he has a tough fight coming up with Solis, it won't be the formality most think it to be!
SAG


Cestrian
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Cestrian (82 Posts) on Thu 10-Mar-2011:

I am intrested to hear what people think on what weight Haye will come in at ?

Do you think he will come in light 14stone 10 built for speed....

Or do we think he will come in heavy (for Haye) at 15 stone 10 + built for power ??

Given the shockining judges in Germany (just ask anyone who fought Sven Ottke over there if they got a fair deal.... Byron Mitchell, Robin Reid, etc etc)

Its very sad but if this goes 12 then Haye will lose the fight regardless of what he does ! I see him comming in at 15stone 6lb + to get his guy out of there.


MM007
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MM007 (11 Posts) on Thu 17-Mar-2011:

OK I just gotta end this Haye lovefest (heehee) with a neutral point of view. My opinion is that Haye will get jabbed to death by Wlad, but Haye does have a punchers chance early, until he gases, like he always does. No chance against Vitali. Vitali too big, strong, tough, iron jawed and is better conditioned (stamina).

I oppose Cestrian's view and think Haye should come in light and use his speed. He has natural power, so the faster he is the better chance to land on Wlad's glass cabinet.

Anyway, just my opinion. SAG and Cestrian on the other side of the coin how does Haye win tactically?


Cestrian
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Cestrian (82 Posts) on Fri 18-Mar-2011:

Fair enough MM007. I think I would just like to see him at the Ruiz weight 15stone 5 (give or take a lb) rather than the Audley weight which was 14 stone 10lb or something.

Its only 3/4 a stone I think he will retain his speed but bang a bit harder. I dont hink he is planning to go the distance so he will be paced for 7/8 round of power punching. I know he is a improved fighter but if you watch Wlads losses you will see he can be got to if you have fast hand like Sanders.

I think Wlad will be bombed out early - Vitali will be a great fight and his chin will be the difference.

Vitali has been hurt in his prime - Watch round 1 against Sanders on youtube. He was rocked to his boots. Haye bangs just as hard - 2 years ago I would say Vitali but now I think you can flip a coin the second fight.


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MM007 (11 Posts) on Fri 18-Mar-2011:

Yeah good points. I don't agree with Vitali being a flip of the coin, but the world would be boring if everyone agreed on everything.

I wonder how Haye gets past Wlad's jab before getting discouraged if continually tapped on the nose. I agree Haye needs the KO especially if it's in Germany.

Another question for you. Do you think Haye will go after Wlad straight away? He took 2 rounds to take a chance against Audley and I don't have to tell you the huge gap in talent between Audley and Wlad. I think Haye needs to lay it on the line but that will leave him open also.


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Cestrian (82 Posts) on Fri 18-Mar-2011:

I know what you mean M007 about Haye to 2 rounds to get going against Fraudly.

I have watched the fight a couple of times and I think that was because Fraudly is normaly a counter puncher but he did not want to throw punches first and leave gaps in his defense for Haye to spring into. The Ko was started by Fraudly trying to start throwing leather.

I think Wlad will look to get that great jab going from round 1 so I expect to see Haye unload from the off.

How do you think Solis will go on Sat ?? I think it will give us a good indication on how Haye will go. (that if he gets passed him)

Solis looks in great shape - I just wonder if he has the power to ko him. I see this going the distance with Vlad getting the nod (perhaps with a little of bit of help from his friends) :O)


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MM007 (11 Posts) on Sat 19-Mar-2011:

I don't know much about Solis other than what I've read. Sounds like a solid background with amateur success but from what I've seen of him he looks like he trains at McDonalds. If he is in shape I guess he probably has the skills to cause an upset. If he doesn't come in shape he will get KO'ed by the always in shape Vitali. I got a feeling it could get a little heated and wild in which I think Vitali has proven he doesn't mind mixing it up. Vit Klit KO10.


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gymbo (1 Posts) on Tue 22-Mar-2011:

Well Sollis took the dive, hope he got paid well, and now Vitali will fight Haye rather than his brother Vlad.
Its the fight they have always wanted.
As far as whether Haye can beat Vitali, well Vitali looked a tad concerned with Sollis's speed and I get a feeling Haye will be even quicker so maybe Haye just has enough speed to keep out of harms way and beat up on Vitali,


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The Wolf (3 Posts) on Wed 23-Mar-2011:

gymbo:
Solis "took the dive"????!!!! So I guess you're not aware that he has since undergone surgery on his torn cruciate ligament, you imbecile!


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Marra (21 Posts) on Thu 14-Apr-2011:

Hey guys, To start i don't think haye needs to knock Vitali out even in germany, he does however need to completety outclass him not a word often associatad with david haye i know but he can do it. For all hayes power i still can't quite see him getting a knock out blow, not against Vitalli anyway (Wlad yes!). I think haye has to use his speed advantage and lighter weight to pick Vitalli off. He needs to keep Vitalli's jab down to a minimum which means stepping in with quick combo's then running.
Very much like the Valuev fight, yes its not going to be the most entertaining fight but i feel that its the only way Haye can overcome vitalli.
All other scenario have grizzly end for haye i feel, if he tries for the hayemakers he will leave himself open to power shot from someone that maybe 3 even four stone heavier which will see him on his arse in no time.
If he try's to trade blows or find openings inside the guard he is just gonna be met by the jab which again will takes it toll and score for vitalli.
i only see haye winning this on points and he will have to out point him heavly (in germany) and to do that you have to hit but not be hit and that is to hayes advantage.
 


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Mr.Fiske (1 Posts) on Sun 22-May-2011:

Beercat,

Well you certainley are a loud mouthed, probaly overweight American sitting in front of your PC, gobbing off about our United Kingdom.  I have fought as a professional heavyweight boxer and served my  ountry for over 22 years-I am a veteran , oh and by the way not in the sense of US forces that obtain medals for flying iover the Atlantis but my firng my weapon in the hills of Afaghanistan.  The American forces whilst having the finest equipment and some good guys are seen as a bit of a joke my friend.  Fopreigners in our island, its called Democracy and freedom to travel you fat, head stuck up your ****ing ass yank **** !!  I went to US last year,I could count on one had the amount of normal weighted folks that I could see, you are a country consumed by Doritos, full fat coke and pizzas-**** you and Rule Brittania


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joeshine (4 Posts) on Mon 23-May-2011:

England is becomoing a muslim arab country. Poor Britties have a monarchy that is the world's joke. now a weak prince marries some skank and spends millions while the poor starve. Haye is a disgrace to represent africa let alone britain in boxing. hatton is an addict and his brother looks like a clone made in a lab. Froch is pretty though, not much to be proud of if you are from england. but you do have big eared prince chuck and the old hag queen, good day britties. The USA loves to laugh at you.


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74Big Al (6 Posts) on Sat 11-Jun-2011:

The english and americans are the most hated nations in the world and all of their boxers are poofs.


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honey bee (1 Posts) on Tue 21-Jun-2011:

I don't know about David Haye being the savior of the heavy weight division. I like his bravado. It sells tickets. I still think he will annihilate Wladimir Klitschko. I remember watching Wladimir on queer street fighting a bum named Davarryl Williamson, with a powerful right hand. He got dropped. Williamson didn't have the mental fortitude to finish the job. I believe David Haye is faster, more powerful, and mentally stronger. It's over.


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joeshine (4 Posts) on Mon 11-Jul-2011:

poor brits losers for life and still following the poor sap davey haye. can't you britties wise up losing is your past and future. Let the Americans protect  you poor souls forever.


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