Hey guys, To start i don't think haye needs to knock Vitali out even in germany, he does however need to completety outclass him not a word often associatad with david haye i know but he can do it. For all hayes power i still can't quite see him getting a knock out blow, not against Vitalli anyway (Wlad yes!). I think haye has to use his speed advantage and lighter weight to pick Vitalli off. He needs to keep Vitalli's jab down to a minimum which means stepping in with quick combo's then running. Very much like the Valuev fight, yes its not going to be the most entertaining fight but i feel that its the only way Haye can overcome vitalli. All other scenario have grizzly end for haye i feel, if he tries for the hayemakers he will leave himself open to power shot from someone that maybe 3 even four stone heavier which will see him on his arse in no time. If he try's to trade blows or find openings inside the guard he is just gonna be met by the jab which again will takes it toll and score for vitalli. i only see haye winning this on points and he will have to out point him heavly (in germany) and to do that you have to hit but not be hit and that is to hayes advantage.
Pathetic....thats the only word that sums up fraudley. I was debating whether to buy tickets for this fight as the atmosphere in the M.E.N was fantastic for the Ruiz fight. THANK YOU audley your reputation as a **** fighter saved me £70 quid. As for haye well at least he had to train for this fight, but losing more in the weight department was a mistake i think. If Haye had have come in a bloated fat 18 stone he would have still move with more speed than audley. Everyone is/was criticising Haye for taking this fight, when in fact everyone should be patting him on the back for possibly putting the last nail in fraudley's career coffin, hopefully we have seen the last of this clown.
Pavlos, RobbieMagic: Hi gents, good to see you fella's giving some input but as usual bearcat is on his anti british soap box again. As you have no doubt read his earlier post's this guys just waits for people to reply to his posts so he can have another spew fest on british boxers. Take my advice gents and just stop posting to anything he has a say in (which is a shame i know cos when he actually talks about boxing he has some fair points). Would have put in my pennies worth about Haye but i won't be giving that pillock the satisfaction.
DEL, I don't think we were wrong we wanted Mosley to win but to be honest never actually thought he would, our heads told us mayweather would win on points (thou i did think it would have been closer) but we just hoped mosley might find something to take him out and he almost did, mayweather was seeing stars in the second. As much i dislike mayweather for his ego i have to admit he outclassed mosley and for the first time since he beat Corley and Gatti he actually went for mosley offensively, and late on dare i suggest even out powered him. Yes mosley is 38 and looked very tired after 7 rounds but you have to hand it to mayweather he was absolutly brilliant. I think a Manny Vs Mayweather fight could possibly be one of the great fights, and would not even begin to pretend to give a prediction.
HI DEL, I have only posted once on this debate before now and that is simply because of bearcat's almost stalker like obession with hatton which was a shame because other members had some good points on what could have been an interesting debate. Instead some idiot from pricksville usa decided to comment. I respect everyone's opinions on these forums whether i agree or disagree with them and would prefer to respond to these opinions on a boxing basis with facts and insight rather than talk out of my arse like bearcat. I will not respond to bearcat's drivel as he is only hoping to ignite an agressive response from british boxing fans. Like i said before retards make me laugh so i find him amusing. And on that note hope to see everyone else's views and comments on other topics, enjoy the Mayweather vs Mosley fight.
DEL, WARDSTAR....I'm in total agreement, my heart wants mosley to spark him out but my head says mayfeather will do what he does best and thats win on points. Like you guys have already said mosley needs to go after Floyd pin him down and to be honest he could pull it off, even if mosley takes a few shots on the counter to get close he's not going to go down as he has a solid chin and can take the punishment to get his chance of landing some big blows on floyd.....we all know how floyd will fight but it will be entirely up to mosley to force the issue...who knows judges seemed to be favouring the more agressive fighthers these days he may get lucky.
But its worth a bet ...mosley is 18-1 to KO mayfeather in the last 3 rounds.
Just want to comment on some of the later posts. The outcome of this fight would all depend on what catch weight was agreed upon and if any cash penalties where invovled if any fighter came in heavier than the agreed weight. I have posted before that Mayweather picks his recent fights on his terms and they always favour him in some way (probable exception to this the mosley fight). With this in mind i don't think you can gauge the outcome form the JMM fights with mayweather and manny as Manny fought JMM at 130lbs almost 3 weight divisions below the agreed catch weight of 144lbs that mayweather fought JMM. And just add highlight that more don't forget mayweather decided to ignore the weight limit and weight in at 146lbs to JMM's 142lbs and rumour has it that he actually came into the fight around 150lbs +, that almost 4 weight divisions above the manny fight a and 3 weight division than any fight JMM has fought at, and he still couldn't knock JMM out.
therefore If a catch weight could be agreed around 140 - 145lbs and there is no get out clause if you don't meet the weight then i think Manny would edge the fight, even with Floyd's incredible defense. I think floyd would be surprised at just how fast and powerful the little man is.
Cestrian...I'm with you on that one...haye say he's out of the game after 4 more fights in two years, hoping to retire rich and still able to speak without a slur (so he says). I'd like to see him carry on if he manages to unify the belts as i think he can only really have a legacy if he defends the belts. Haye may think that once he has beaten the K brothers then he's beaten the best out there so why fight anyone else. At this moment in time he's probably right, but maybe someone might come through the ranks by the time he's got the belts.
Who knows maybe Fraudly "A-Farce" Harrison might beat him with one arm..lol