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SecondsOut Team Picks: Pacquiao Vs Rios/Froch Vs Groves


SecondsOut’s army of writers once again put their reputations on the line to predict the outcome of two of Saturday’s big fights. In Macau, China, Manny Pacquiao attempts to get his career back on track against Brandon Rios while in Manchester, England, Carl Froch defends his IBF super middleweight title against fellow Briton George Groves.
 
See below who our correspondents think will be victorious
 
I’ve said before and I say it again, this fight is little too early for Groves. I see Froch being a little polished in all departments and the edge in experience should see him home via unanimous points decision.
 
Froch w pts 12
Clive Bernath
Editor In Chief
 
Pacquiao w pts 12
Only after the fight will we know just how much the Marquez defeated has effected Pacquiao. Personally I think Pacquiao will be a little gun shy and may have lost his edge but I still see him coming through a tougher than expected fight via controversial 12 round decision.
 
Pacquiao w pts 12
Clive Bernath
Editor In Chief
 
 
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Groves hits hard, but Froch is just too good and has good power too.  The only 168 pounder who Carl can’t handle is Andre Ward.  Groves will have to land his power early to gain Froch’s respect, but I don’t think he will. 
Froch w pts 12
Jerry Glick
New York
New York City
USA
 
I’m a big fan of both Brandon Rios and Manny Pacquiao.  Both could punch, but the difference will be Manny’s speed and enormous skill set.  Both are hungry, Rios to join the elite, and Pacman to reestablish himself after two losses in a row. 
Pacquiao tko 10
Jerry Glick
New York
New York City
USA
 
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Carl ‎Froch has every advantage over George Groves aside from age. Still, at 36, Froch is the best out there at Super Middleweight behind Andre Ward. I don’t see anyone else beating Froch at this point. I think he wins again in dominant fashion using his height, reach and overall skill to pick apart and stop Groves in the mid to late rounds.
 
Froch w tko 10
Derek Gionta
Pittsburgh, PA, USA
 
Manny Pacquiao and Brandon Rios will meet in what will surely be an entertaining fight. Both are coming off tough losses. Pacquiao’s KO loss to Marquez will be much tougher to come back from than Rios’ points loss to Alvarado in their rematch. Pacquiao will most likely look to open up holes in Rios’ defense fighting off of angles while Rios will come forward with his usual relentless style. I feel Pacquiao will be sharp enough to catch Rios coming in and withstand the pressure en route to a late stoppage or points victory.
 
Pacquiao w tko 11
Derek Gionta
Pittsburgh, PA, USA
 
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Froch isn’t on the downstroke yet and grove isn’t quite ready for him. Good, close fight, Froch by dec.
 
Froch pts 12
Jowett
New York
USA
 
 
Pac-Rios isn’t about Rios, it’s about Pac. Is he still Pac or just a shadow? He’s on the downstroke but I don’t think he’s faded that much. Pac by dec in a hard-fought struggle.
 
Pacquiao w pts 12
Jeff Jowett
New York
USA
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This will be a splendid brawl while it lasts! Contrary to what many believe, Pacquiao is not shot or worn out. He’ll be just as sharp and explosive as ever, which will make for a heck of a war. Rios is good - not great - and he’s fun to watch. The problem is that he actually seems to enjoy getting punched in the face. That don’t bode well for him against Manny, who will flatten Rios mid fight.
 
Pacquiao ko7
Mike Sloan
Las Vegas 
Nevada
USA
 
Groves is a solid guy but he’s not in the same league with Froch. I see this one being competitive early, but over time Froch’s experience will turn the tides heavily in favor. Froch will starting hammering away, which obviously is not going to benefit Groves. Finally, Froch will catch him during an exchange and end the fight.
 
Froch tko 9
Mike Sloan
Las Vegas 
Nevada
USA
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Manny Pacquiao is in the twilight of his career. With his last two fights ending in losses, many wonder where he goes from here should he lose to Brandon Rios. Without a doubt, Manny Pacquiao is still a powerhouse in boxing. He has speed, power and experience on his side. In his last fight with Juan Manuel Marquez, Pacquiao suffered a brutal knockout that stunned the boxing world. This Saturday, Manny Pacquiao will face Brandon Rios, a tough fighter who has been through some wars in the ring. Rios, a solid fighter who can throw some hard blows is not afraid to take a few shots in return, but he must be careful taking to many shots from Pacquiao. Rios will have his hands full this night when he meets Pacquiao. Rios is a banger, he almost enjoys getting hit and this could work to his advantage, or work against him depending on how much power his opponent has. Pacquiao is still a dangerous fighter, he has beaten the best out there and has the resume to prove it. For Pacquiao, the question of ring rust and the effect of the knockout will be a factor. Look for Rios to attack early in an attempt to set the tone of the fight. If Rios can do this, he will be successful landing the uppercut, causing Pacquiao to make adjustments. Rios must make constant adjustments and changes on his attack which I think he will. If he fights smart and is patient, Rios will win. One punch will determine this fight, Rios will be the one throwing that punch that stops Pacquiao in round 8.
Rios tko 8
Ron Valderrama
Houston, Texas
USA
 
Expect a war when Carl Froch and George Groves face each other in the ring this weekend. Groves may not have faced the same caliber of opponents as Froch, but wirhout a doubt he has skill as a fighter. For Froch, his loss to Andre Ward left him with a new attitude. Froch is more improved as a fighter when he meets Groves. Froch is a banger, he has been through some wars in the course of his career. Froch is a tested fighter, he can still throw and take a hard punch. His experience that he has gained from every fight is what has brought to where he is today. Groves is much younger than Froch, he has skills that may test Froch and certainly youth will be on his side, but even in the twilight of his career, Froch is still a force in boxing. Groves must not under estimate Froch and his ability to bang. Froch has taken in all the trash talking by Groves and chooses to speak his piece in the ring. I see this as an exciting fight, but Froch just has to much left in his arsenal to lose. Froch has a nice and constant jab, he will find his range early and slowly wear Groves down. When this happens, expect Froch to work the body and use combinations on Groves. I see Froch stopping Groves in the later rounds, maybe rounds 8-9 with a stoppage by TKO.
 
Froch tko  8-9
Ron Valderrama
Houston, Texas
USA
 
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I don’t think Pacquiao’s knockout loss to Marquez is going to affect him at all, at least in this fight.  Brandon will hang tough but Manny’s hand speed, superior footwork and punches coming at him from odd angles will be too much for Rios to handle.  I see Manny taking him apart in round three, after sizing him up and then beating him to a TKO victory in the seventh or eighth round.
 
Pacquiao tko 7 Rios
Matthew Hurley
Quincy
 Massachusetts
USA
 
 
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They say you are only as good as your last fight. Both Rios and Pacquiao lost mind you, but despite the brutal ending to the fight of the latter , this is Manny Pacquiao we are talking about and I don’t think he is done just yet. His speed, movement and power should cause more than enough damage to the oncoming ferociousness of Rios over twelve rounds. This may lead to a boxing lesson down the stretch in a fight too important for Manny to slip up in.  
 
Pacquiao w pts 12
Wayne Bartlett
Texas
USA
 
My mind has changed more times than the direction of the wind in the build up to this fight. But I can’t help but think of Froch-Dirrell and the problems Carl had, and Groves-DeGale in which Groves boxed superbly then hung on for dear life. Froch wouldn’t have had the same problem pulling the trigger as DeGale did, but now Groves has improved. Froch’s record and achievements are top notch and he could well catch Groves and it’s goodnight, but I cant ignore the nagging feeling Groves will frustrate Froch in the same way he did DeGale and the same way Dirrell did to Froch. Groves may have to hang on for dear life again with Froch looking to land that big punch, but, if forced, I say Groves nicks it.
 
Groves  w pts 12
Wayne Bartlett
Texas
USA
 
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Froch is fighting at a very high level at this point especially where his confidence is concerned.  He should be able over time to break down and stop Groves.
 
Froch tko
James Smith
Host In This Corner TV
Las Vegas
Nevada
USA
Pacquiao and Rios are on two extremely different area codes in terms of over all talent, skill, and athleticism.  Unless Manny has really aged or still has round 6 from last Marquez fight in his head.  He should be able to really beat up Rios who should be not much more than a smaller version of Antonio Margarito.  Pacman between 6 and 9 rds. 
 
Pacquiao w tko 8-9
Host In This Corner TV
Las Vegas
Nevada
USA
 
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Froch is too experienced for Groves, has been there, done that and the talk that Groves has been doing will have added extra incentive. It wont be all easy though as Groves will have his success in the early rounds with his superior boxing skills but ultimately Froch will wear him down and get him out of there.
Froch tko 9
 
Rois is the perfect opponent for Pacquiao, well the fast Pacquiao. He didnt show signs of being slow against JMM, had him in all sorts of problems until that punch, Rios will be sliced and diced, only his toughness will make him last to the end.
Pacquiao pts 12
 
Lwazi Ndzobongo
Johannesburg
South Africa
 
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I see Froch winning a decision over Groves, Froch is to athletic for Groves. Although Groves is a well schooled boxer, Froch’s speed and athletic abilities will determine the outcome of this fight.

The intrigue of the Pacquiao/Rios fight has intensified over the past couple of days. If the fight was between the two trainers then I would have to go with Rios’s trainer, but since it is Pacquiao and Rios that has to battle it out in that squared circle, I’m going with Pacquiao to win a bloody match against a hungry, determined Bam Bam.

Pacquiao tko 10
Reginald Murrell
Temecula
California
USA

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This fight doesn’t really seem that hard to figure out. Manny Pacquiao should be able win on points over Brandon Rios using his speed and angles to confuse and thwart Rios’ straightforward attack. As long a Pacquiao is in great shape to do that over 12 rounds I see him winning by a couple of rounds. The X-factor here is what Pacquiao really has left mentally and physically after the devastating knockout to Juan Manuel Marquez. We know what Rios is going to bring -- non-stop offense and power punching. But we’ve also seen how he has been out-boxed by the likes of Miguel Acosta (at least until he caught him) and Mike Alvarado.
 
Pacquiao pts 12
José Santana
Cleveland, OH, USA
 
Groves vs. Froch
 
Groves is young and strong and has built himself a solid resume at 19 fights, but Froch brings more experience, and I believe skill, than he has and has seen before. His penchant to leave his lead hand hanging low is a dangerous habit, and something Froch may be able to exploit. I’m not sure Froch can knock Groves out, but it could be a long night for St. George. Or, it could just be his true coming out party if he can catch a catchable Froch.
 
Froch pts 12
José Santana
Cleveland, OH, USA
 
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Bam Bam’s style isn’t going to be effective against the naturally bigger Pac Man. He’ll try to apply the pressure, but don’t expect him to win a slugfest with Manny. An extra cautious Pacquiao will cruise to a decision while trying to get his confidence back. As much as Manny likes to brawl, he knows he needs a win and can’t afford to be hit with another devastating haymaker. 116-112. Let the Mayweather/Pacquiao chants resume. It’s still the biggest potential fight out there, too bad the promotional companies continue to refuse to work together.

 

Pacquiao w pts 12

Mike Franzak

Grand Rapids, MI

USA

 

 

Froch is too big, too experienced, too skilled, and flat out too bad of a man for the green Groves. He’s probably got a nice future ahead of him, but Froch is still in his prime and will prove to be too much to handle. Look for Groves to tire late, as he hasn’t had much experience going a full 12 rounds. The Cobra walks him down and puts him out in the championship rounds.

 

Froch tko 9.

Mike Franzak

Grand Rapids, MI

USA

 

 
Pacquiao = 13
Rios = 1
 
Froch= 12
Groves=1
 
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