ATE: Mayweather-Marquez, Pacquiao, Roy’s Back, Jones-Hopkins 2, Calzaghe Belted Lacy, Froch’s Chances, Klitschkos and More
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In today’s edition of Ask The Editor (ATE), we take another look at Floyd Mayweather Jr-Juan Manuel Marquez while throwing some Manny Pacquiao onto the fire. Review Roy Jones Jr’s impressive win over Jeff Lacy and consider a possible rematch with Bernard Hopkins. Revisit the beating Joe Calzaghe gave Jeff Lacy, calculate Carl Froch’s 168lbs tournament hopes, talk some more Klitschko brothers and more.
Name : Brian Richards
Country : USA
Your Question :
Looking forward to the Floyd Mayweather Jr-Juan Manuel Marquez fight. I think Marquez is going to be very tough for Floyd, who could be a little rusty coming back. How do you see it going?
CLIVE BERNATH ANSWERS: Hello Brian. I like this fight. Floyd could well have a difficult fight ahead of him, especially after being out of the game for so long, but I feel he’s stayed in good enough fighting shape whilst ‘retired’ to make the minimal of difference. Yes he will be rusty, but I think he edges past Marquez in a tougher than expected fight.
GREG JUCKETT ANSWERS: Brian, I suspect Mayweather-Marquez could turn out to be a technical chess match between two counter-punchers. I’ll go with Mayweather on points, but I don’t feel strongly about it considering JM Marquez is not a guy you want to fight following two years of inactivity, a risk Mayweather apparently is willing to take.
PAUL UPHAM ANSWERS: Yes Brian, very interesting to see whether Mayweather immediately finds his best after his retirement break. Of course, there will be critics who point out that Floyd is coming back against a smaller boxer, but Marquez hasn’t taken this fight to lose. He is most people’s pound for pound No.2 right now and will fight to the end. Who knows, maybe there will be a few deficiencies in Mayweather’s armour now he is in his early thirties and Marquez can take advantage of them. Boxing history has always shown that even the very best fighters age and deteriorate as the years go on.
MICHAEL NORBY ANSWERS: I agree with you. Marquez is a special fighter and has the skill to give Mayweather a lot of trouble. I’m looking forward to this one and I’m expecting a very close contest in a few weeks time. I go back and forth, but I would probably lean toward Mayweather by decision.
JERRY GLICK ANSWERS: I have always been a fan of the finesse fighter, the boxer with skills who can use those skills to make things go his way. That isn’t written in stone, but I do tend to favor the boxer as I do here. Floyd was off for a while, but I don’t think it was long enough to create a think layer of rust. Marquez may manage to look good for a few rounds, but Mayweather will begin to dominate by the third and will win by a unanimous decision.
Name : Patrick McKenzie
Country : USA
Your Question :
After Roy Jones’ recent impressive victory, and if he looks good and gets past his next opponent Danny Green, what do you think of the chances a RJJ vs. Bernard Hopkins II gets made? Personally I think it’ll happen for a couple reasons. Hopkins would love to avenge his loss and Roy is looking for the biggest paydays he can get and knows this one would now be the biggest one out there for him. Also, both would go in thinking they could win. While, as everyone would agree, this fight should have been made years ago, I still think it would be an intriguing match-up. Both fighters, at this point in the career, like to fight in spurts and pick their shots making it a very tactical fight. And both, despite their advanced age, still appear to have plenty in the tank. What are your thoughts? Do you think the fight would be made if the future plays out as I stated? And, if so, how do you see the fight ending?
CLIVE BERNATH ANSWERS: I think you could be right, Patrick. It’s certainly a fight I’d like to see. We know they are past their primes but both have demonstrated recently that they are far from finished despite their advancing years. I’ve said this before, forget how old some of these fighters are. Ok, they do fight in spurts, but I still enjoy watching good craftsman work. Hopkins and Jones are still two great craftsman.
GREG JUCKETT ANSWERS: Patrick, there are two huge egos involved in making Jones-Hopkins II. They’ve tried to make this rematch before and dividing the money has been a roadblock. I say it never gets done, but if they do fight again, I like Jones by decision.
PAUL UPHAM ANSWERS: I’m with you Patrick, great fight still, lets see it. Can you imagine the press tour? One of those ten cities in eight days type tours. Hopkins and Jones would be going at it verbally non-stop. There would be plenty of classic quotes for the media and fans. It is a fight that makes sense. A rematch 18 years after the original. Both have certainly changed a lot since then, particularly Hopkins. As you pointed out, there are plenty of reasons to make it, but could they ever agree on the money split and does HBO really want to do it? Roy hasn’t left everyone at HBO feeling good over the years with some of his antics. I hope it gets made, but I have my doubts. There is a good reason why this rematch hasn’t been made before. Do both of them really want it?
MICHAEL NORBY ANSWERS: I think there is a great chance of this fight getting done. The two of them were arguing with each other live on a Houston radio show a couple of days back and seem to be trying to drum up interest. Roy looked really good against Jeff Lacy last week and could give B-Hop a good fight but I would probably pick Hopkins to win a decision.
JERRY GLICK ANSWERS: The way matches are being made today, I agree with you that a RJJ vs. B-Hop II is very possible. I always felt that Jones was the better of the two but that was then, this is now. Some people age better than others. While Roy has aged well, Hopkins has aged better. I see Bernard gaining revenge for his loss to Jones by a decision. B-Hop has the style that lends itself to being successful and old at the same time.
Name : Ranjeev Kumar
Country : United Kingdom
Your Question :
RJJ vs. Hopkins is a fight I would absolutely love to see. Will it ever happen? If so, when? Who would win? Winner fights rematch against Calzaghe? (now I’m drooling!)
CLIVE BERNATH ANSWERS: Ranjeev, if I had to stick my neck out I’d have to lean towards Hopkins, though it would depend on what the fight was made at.
GREG JUCKETT ANSWERS: Ranjeev, I don’t mean to be a buzz kill, but I think Jones-Hopkins II will not happen.
PAUL UPHAM ANSWERS: Sorry, but I don’t see Joe Calzaghe ever coming back. He knows by retiring on top, undefeated, it only enhances his reputation in the future. The only way Joe fights again is if he somehow loses his financial nest egg. Continuing the Hopkins-Jones Jr rematch talk, while I doubt it will happen, you could only be impressed with Roy’s performance against Jeff Lacy. Not many people saw that impressive performance coming. He was simply outstanding for 40, regardless of who he was fighting. I’d still lead towards Hopkins winning over the distance, but it would be a much closer fight now than say two years ago when Jones’ was really struggling.
MICHAEL NORBY ANSWERS: I’m strangely intrigued by the prospects of a Roy Jones vs. Bernard Hopkins rematch now. If you had asked me a year or so ago I wouldn’t have been that interested but both fighters enjoyed dominant wins in their last contests and could provide a good show. No matter who wins, there are two hopes of Calzaghe giving the winner a rematch – Bob Hope and no hope.
JERRY GLICK ANSWERS: Please don’t drool. I just got this shirt! Besides, if Calzaghe does come back I think he will look for greener pastures. A rematch with these two won’t be as enticing as a Calzaghe-Dawson fight, or maybe even a shot at Carl Froch. I think that Hopkins has more in the tank than Jones at this point, so my pick in a rematch between the two all time greats is B-Hop.
Name : Alex Pacey
Country : Australia
Your Question :
Following Jeff Lacy’s defeat at the hands of Roy Jones, I couldn’t help but be struck by the irony of the manner it ended. As we know, Lacy’s corner pulled him out at the end of the tenth in the latest of a recent string of losses and below par performances. Imagine how different his career might have been if they’d taken the decision to do the same on that night against Calzaghe. I’d venture that the destruction of his confidence that night has done far more damage to his career than his limited skills being exposed ever could have. Lacy just seems to me to be hesitant and not fighting to his potential these days and that could have a lot to do with a lack of confidence. Just goes to show the value of a great corner. Thoughts?
CLIVE BERNATH ANSWERS: I said this in the last ATE, Alex. I do think the defeat to Joe Calzaghe, pretty much finished him as a top tier fighter.
GREG JUCKETT ANSWERS: Alex, I think you make some very strong points. I don’t think Lacy was ever going to be a Hall of Famer, but Calzaghe may have permanently altered Lacy’s future ring prowess.
PAUL UPHAM ANSWERS: Excellent points Alex. Lacy is a boxer fighting without confidence and as you correctly point out, the sustained beating he took from Calzaghe appears to be the cause. As Jeff Fenech always reminds me, there is a hell of a lot of very brave cornermen out there in professional boxing.
MICHAEL NORBY ANSWERS: I thought the Lacy vs. Calzaghe fight should have been stopped around the ninth frame to be honest. He took a hell of a beating and really hasn’t been the same since. His troubles may or may not be linked to that night in Manchester a few years ago, but he just doesn’t seem to have it anymore.
JERRY GLICK ANSWERS: There can be no mistaking it, a better corner can only help tilt the odds in a fighter’s favor. A corner that helps with advice rather than pep talks and attempts at embarrassing a fighter into performing is worth it’s weight in gold. The problem with Lacy is that second guessing his corner’s actions during these fights is pointless, his management needs to attempt to match him with styles that he is better suited against. Calzaghe and Jones are master technicians and they just picked Lacy apart, he needs to do his best to choose more wisely who to fight. There are other paths to take to get to the top.
Name : Naeem Hussain
Country : United Kingdom
Your Question :
Hi guys, love the site, check it everyday and I gotta say I think it’s the best boxing website around. Great fight reports, balanced opinions and terrific articles. Now my question is regarding the potential Mayweather-Pacquiao bout. I’m just not convinced Money will ever share a ring with Pac-Man, and for the same reasons he never got in the ring with Cotto, Margarito and Mosley (so far) - the risk of defeat. Obviously, boxing is a business more than a sport and for Floyd I think it really is about the money now more than anything, but his last few fights have made me believe he will only fight guys he knows he can beat. Gatti? Slower and less skilled. Baldomir? Same. De La Hoya? Faded and reluctant to pull the trigger. Hatton? Smaller, shorter reach and less foot speed. It’s easy to look back with 20-20 hindsight, but I think Mayweather knew Hatton didn’t have the tools to beat him. Pacquiao, however, is one guy who may be faster than Floyd, particularly in terms of footwork. He may be significantly smaller, but it looks like he’s carried his power up with him. My prediction is Mayweather will easily defeat Marquez (using his superior skills and speed) and then price himself out of a Pacquiao fight. Now I would LOVE to be proved wrong (on the latter count) but I just don’t see it happening. What are your honest opinions?
CLIVE BERNATH ANSWERS: Thanks for the kind words, Naeem, that means a lot. Yes, boxing is a business and it’s all about maximum gain for minimal risk. But I do think Marquez will be tougher to beat than some may think. I also believe Mayweather vs. Pacquiao will get made for many reasons. Obviously the money, both will make a sackful of the green stuff. Also, I believe Mayweather will want to cement his legacy with a win over the current pound for pound king. I also think the money split will work itself out as well
GREG JUCKETT ANSWERS: Naeem, I tend to agree that Mayweather-Pacquiao may not ever happen. I don’t think Floyd beats Marquez that easily either. I don’t think Mayweather is scared to fight anybody.
PAUL UPHAM ANSWERS: If Mayweather and Pacquiao both win their next fights, they will meet in the ring in 2010. It would be hard publicly for the guy who seems to be reluctant to make the deal. The only way it doesn’t happen is if one of them asks for an over the top %, which could well mean they are worried about taking the fight. Right now, I’d say it happens. If Mayweather struggles with Marquez, things could change.
MICHAEL NORBY ANSWERS: I largely agree with you that Mayweather has carefully weighed up risk vs. reward in some of his past fights. I give him credit for taking on Castillo, Corrales and Hatton, and he has beaten some very good fighters, but he really needs to step it up now and take on some serious challenges. Believe it or not, I think Marquez is going to be tough for him to get by but, if he does, he has to fight the Pacquiao vs. Cotto winner. I think he will.
JERRY GLICK ANSWERS: Thanks for the good words Naeem, and you are right that boxing is a business, but no more than any other sport. As far as Mayweather fighting Pacquiao, I think that as long as they both continue to win, money will be the magnet that will draw these two into the same ring. It will be a mini Ali-Frazier fight with the best aggressor against the best pure boxer fighting each other. Club me over the head if you choose, but the boxer, Floyd, will be victorious. The question will be - who wins the rematch?
Name : Richard Goff
Country : United Kingdom
Your Question :
Getting excited now, counting down till the Super Six World Boxing Classic gets under way. Froch, your thoughts on is he good enough to win the tournament? Excellent stamina, great power minus his lack of speed and supposed lack of boxing skills. I think he has a great chance of winning. Competition looks great, but I feel the American fighters may not be in the same class as the European ones and could be found out. Dirrell and Ward being untested and Taylor, well lets just say his career is going downward fast. Finally, if the tournament is a success, which I can’t see a reason why it should not be, wouldn’t it be amazing to have one for other divisions, namely the Welterweights. My line-up being Shane Mosley, Antonio Margarito (controversial but this is only my dream line-up), Miguel Angel Cotto, Joshua Clottey, Floyd Mayweather Jr and of course Manny Pacquiao (obvious involving catchweights so he can be involved). Too many egos, but a dream line-up us boxing fans would die for, as no ducking and diving from each other. Thoughts?
CLIVE BERNATH ANSWERS: I’d loved to see the welterweight tournament, Richard but unfortunately the budget would go through the roof and would not be feasible. Not on Showtime, anyway. As far as Froch winning the tournament I’d have to say he would have to up his game 100% and deep down he knows it. I do believe he has the confidence but he also knows deep down if he’s honest with himself he was 15 seconds away from losing his title to Jermain Taylor. It’s no secret I’m a Kessler fan, like his style, he has all the tools and I feel he will be coming into his prime in the next year. Fair play to Joe Calzaghe, he beat a very good fighter.
GREG JUCKETT ANSWERS: Richard, I’m psyched about the Super Six World Boxing Classic as well and I think that Froch has an excellent chance of winning. I wouldn’t count Jermain Taylor out however. Taylor has a lot of experience and will have something to prove. Your thoughts on a welterweight tournament are spot on! Let’s see how successful the 168lbs version does first.
PAUL UPHAM ANSWERS: Froch is the quiet dangerman. On his night, he can beat any of them. I would have Kessler and Abraham as favourites now to make the final, but Froch is certainly a chance to knock one of them off, if not both.
MICHAEL NORBY ANSWERS: I’m just as excited, Richard, and all boxing fans should be too. This is a terrific concept and I too hope it does well so we can lobby for further tourneys in other divisions. I happen to like Dirrell and Ward a lot. Taylor’s stamina problems could prove his undoing but I wouldn’t be surprised to see him do well. Kessler is my pick but, for me, Arthur Abraham is the most intriguing of the fighters.
JERRY GLICK ANSWERS: The good thing about the Super Six tournament is that, as you seem to indicate Richard, everyone in it is bringing something else to the party. I am not sure that the Euros are better; in fact I’m not sure who will win. Froch is about as confident as anyone but I think that he will have trouble with Dirrell. The question is can he get past this American? If he does he could win it all. I recently told someone that I pick Andre to win; and was asked which one and I said I don’t know. But I agree with your welterweight line-up, except that a participant who needs a catchweight, maybe they should do this in another weight class.
Name : Paul McBride
Country : USA
Your Question :
Regarding the next defenses for the Klitschko brothers, I see them both making successful defenses. If anything, I think it’d be better if they swapped opponents! I think Chris Arreola would have a better shot at Wladimir, the brother who clearly has the weaker chin. I also think Povetkin would be better served fighting Vitali, the less technically sound of the brothers. Thoughts?
CLIVE BERNATH ANSWERS: I’m with you. I think Vitali beats Arreola, mainly due to having more experience of the big fights. But I do think Wladimir will have a tough time against Povetkin.
GREG JUCKETT ANSWERS: Paul, I agree that both Klitschko brothers should emerge victorious in their next defenses. Although due to injuries and television availability in December, it doesn’t look like we’ll see Wladimir vs. Povetkin until 2010.
PAUL UPHAM ANSWERS: I’m really looking for to Vitali Klitschko vs. Arreola. It should be entertaining while it lasts. The older Klitschko seems to be tougher in the real boxing battles.
MICHAEL NORBY ANSWERS: I think Wladimir Klitschko is going to fight Eddie Chambers next, Paul. That could be a tough fight for The Ring magazine champion and will make for an interesting battle. I think Cris Arreola has terrific talent but I’m not sure he is ready yet for either brother.
JERRY GLICK ANSWERS: I think that hard punching Arreola will find himself in deep water no matter which Klitschko he faces. Vitali is a bit better when it comes to being the more difficult boxer, and Wlad is the more explosive of the two so a crude brawler like Chris will be KO’d either way. As far as Povetkin goes, I think he may be better off with Wlad because he may be better against Wlad’s style than Vitali’s.
Name : Joe Woan
Country : USA
Your Question :
Time to add Joseph King Kong Agbeko (current IBF Bantam wt champion) to your list of current champion fighters.
PAUL UPHAM ANSWERS: Agreed! I hope we get to see Agbeko sooner rather than later. He is a real talent.
MICHAEL NORBY ANSWERS: Good eyes, Joe. Good eyes.
JERRY GLICK ANSWERS: I guess so, after all he did beat Vic Darchinyan, and that is no small feat. It goes without saying that it would be great to have one real champion in each weight class.